Lowest HEXACO combo ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

Lowest HEXACO combo ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

Lowest HEXACO combo

Most likely to

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ISTP 5

cp6w5 4

6w5 2

9w8 1

sp/sx 3

sx/sp 1

SLE 2

SLI 2

LSI 1

FLVE 4

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public myers-briggs votes

(20/05/31 05:23) Diobono: ISTP

(20/05/28 02:25) LadyX: ISTP

(20/05/26 16:05) tch: ISTP

(20/05/26 15:22) Vendrah: ISTP

(20/05/19 18:29) fleetingpetals1: ISTP

(20/05/28 03:28) phsc: IST

(20/05/17 18:43) Thyssen: ISTP

(20/05/17 18:36) Tman: ISTP

public function votes

(20/07/24 17:53) tch: ISTP

(20/05/26 15:22) Vendrah: ISTP

(20/05/17 20:18) phsc: ISTP

(20/05/17 18:43) Thyssen: ISTP

(20/05/17 18:36) Tman: ISTP

public enneagram votes

(20/05/31 05:23) Diobono: 6w5

(20/05/28 02:51) strawberry crisis: 9w8

(20/05/28 02:25) LadyX: cp6w5

(20/05/26 15:22) Vendrah: 6w5

(20/05/17 20:18) phsc: cp6w5

(20/05/17 18:43) Thyssen: cp6w5

(20/05/28 17:07) Tman: cp6w5

public instinctual variant votes

(20/05/28 02:25) LadyX: sp/sx

(20/05/28 03:24) phsc: sx/sp

(20/05/17 18:43) Thyssen: sp/sx

(20/05/17 18:37) Tman: sp/sx

public tritype® votes

(20/07/24 17:53) tch: 638

(20/05/28 17:08) Tman: 684

(20/05/28 03:27) phsc: 638

(20/05/28 02:25) LadyX: 684

(20/05/17 18:43) Thyssen: 684

public sociotype votes

(20/05/31 05:23) Diobono: LSI

(20/05/28 17:09) Tman: SLI

(20/05/19 18:29) fleetingpetals1: SLI

(20/05/17 20:18) phsc: SLE

(20/05/17 18:43) Thyssen: SLE

public psychosophy votes

(20/05/31 05:21) Diobono: FLVE

(20/05/28 17:10) Tman: FLVE

(20/05/17 20:18) phsc: FLVE

(20/05/17 18:43) Thyssen: FLVE

public hexaco votes

(20/05/28 03:28) phsc: HEXACO

(20/05/28 02:25) LadyX: HEXACO

phsc

As much as E is part of 6, cp6 kind of distances itself from it in how it behaves, which would lower the score, I also really think the 5 wing also adds to the type in this case:
"Conversely, persons with very low scores on this scale are not deterred by the prospect of physical harm, feel little worry even in stressful situations, have little need to share their concerns with others, and feel emotionally detached from others."
The physical harm of things is not really the biggest of deals, ok ok, mostly if sx/sp, feel little worry, as much as 6 does worry, is not the general idea of cp6 that they... kind of don't worry? since they are going agaisn't their anxiety and fears, which greatly lowers the value, I think being passive is not really the best fit, since low A is kind of too aggressive, not like they cannot be, but are they going to be? I also think that as much as they are not going to be stressed over anything does not mean they are stressed, and the general idea is that low E does not care, it is like, there is no limit, which I think can only be achieved with cp6/8 types, 9w8 still has that 9 core in there, which would make me think cp6 because of the cp part would score lower on pretty much everything other than C.

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2020-05-28 05:22:54pm (post #8247)

strawberry crisis enfp 7

9 is a very passive everything-is-always-OK type. Obviously 9s as people aren't going to always be like that, but type 9 as is talked about is the type does not get stressed over anything, lives by its worries, and takes the path of least resistance. 9 wing 8 may extend that further into passivity toward physical harm. Are 9w8s necessarily agreeable? Not really. They're meant to be apathetic, passive, and indifferent. You're right that 9 is an agreeable type, but the 8 wing gives the type enough room to fall on the lower side (or lowest side).

This doesn't apply to (cp) 6 because E is basically written into the type. I wouldn't really know how to erase that aspect from the type altogether.

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2020-05-28 05:10:25pm (post #8246)

phsc

I don't think 9 is a good fit for being lower on E, "Persons with very high scores on the Emotionality scale experience fear of physical dangers, experience anxiety in response to life's stresses, feel a need for emotional support from others, and feel empathy and sentimental attachments with others. Conversely, persons with very low scores on this scale are not deterred by the prospect of physical harm, feel little worry even in stressful situations, have little need to share their concerns with others, and feel emotionally detached from others."
The fear of physical dangers and anxiety, can be very accurate, also the need for emotional support at times, and A is just so high... I actually don't really understand what you are saying? "The point is that the range of what this type covers will go over somebody who would be lowest HEXACO too" I really don't think so? and how would that not apply to cp6w5? I thinkthat someone who is cp6 being low at C is more likely than someone who is 9 being low at A, the thing is, it is much more likely that the cp6w5 is not a 5 at C, a decently high value, but 9 is pretty much always going to be high at A.

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2020-05-28 04:54:52pm (post #8245)

strawberry crisis enfp 7

The "grave error" in what you're doing here is that you attribute basically no fluidity to any of the types and implicitly create The Refined Archetype that is locked into specific points of preferences along different typology frameworks. 9 is a type that best fits lowest HEXACO. It's a type that is regarded as being lower on E, X, C and even O (though it has a larger range in this area), and can be indifferent with H. The point is that the range of what this type covers will go over somebody who would be lowest HEXACO too... just as would apply to ISTP, SLI, sp/sx, FLEV or whatever else. There's no precision to typology—just blobs that cover people.

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2020-05-28 04:35:41pm (post #8244)

phsc

Let me just explaing my vote, source for everything: https://hexaco.org/scaledescriptions

Letter wise it has to be I, lower X, mostly in "feel confident when leading or addressing groups of people, enjoy social gatherings and interactions" and "feel awkward when they are the center of social attention, are indifferent to social activities" for X, to an extent "have little need to share their concerns with others, and feel emotionally detached from others." for E,

S seems to make most sense because of how high O is correlated with high N and low O is correlated with high S, "Persons with very high scores on the Openness to Experience scale become absorbed in the beauty of art and nature, are inquisitive about various domains of knowledge, use their imagination freely in everyday life, and take an interest in unusual ideas or people. Conversely, persons with very low scores on this scale are rather unimpressed by most works of art, feel little intellectual curiosity, avoid creative pursuits, and feel little attraction toward ideas that may seem radical or unconventional." (keep in mind lower O kind of makes someone more J since they have more fixed and set views, mostly in "feel little attraction toward ideas that may seem radical or unconventional.")

T has to be there for low H (low H also kind of makes sense with S), "Persons with very high scores on the Honesty-Humility scale avoid manipulating others for personal gain, feel little temptation to break rules, are uninterested in lavish wealth and luxuries, and feel no special entitlement to elevated social status. Conversely, persons with very low scores on this scale will flatter others to get what they want, are inclined to break rules for personal profit, are motivated by material gain, and feel a strong sense of self-importance.", also low A, "Persons with very high scores on the Agreeableness scale forgive the wrongs that they suffered, are lenient in judging others, are willing to compromise and cooperate with others, and can easily control their temper. Conversely, persons with very low scores on this scale hold grudges against those who have harmed them, are rather critical of others' shortcomings, are stubborn in defending their point of view, and feel anger readily in response to mistreatment."

J or P is very complicated, at first we have C, "Persons with very high scores on the Conscientiousness scale organize their time and their physical surroundings, work in a disciplined way toward their goals, strive for accuracy and perfection in their tasks, and deliberate carefully when making decisions. Conversely, persons with very low scores on this scale tend to be unconcerned with orderly surroundings or schedules, avoid difficult tasks or challenging goals, are satisfied with work that contains some errors, and make decisions on impulse or with little reflection.", as much as it seems more P by default, intellectually/theoretically J, real-life action P, but since they mention a lot of C stuff as very P, I think a low P vote is what makes the most sense.

Function magic wise, it has to be someone who is high at Se since impulsivity has to be there because of H, C and E, not very Ni or Ne either because of O, not very Fe because of E, that also applies to Fi to an extent, and I think Ti makes sense with low O while being theoretically/intellectually J, but physically P (Se), low X and E can be Fe inferior, H would make sense for a Te user but that would increase C, ISTP seems to make the most sense in a general way.

Enneagram is hard, so let me categorize all types by X (+high,-low,irrelevant/hard to know):
1 (+C H, -O A, E X)
2 (+ E A, H X->this can kind of be high but mostly empirically C O)
3 (+C X and to an extent E, -H, A can be either high or low, O)
4 (+O E, -X?, C H A)
5 (+O, -E X, H A C)
6 (+E, -O, H X A C)
7 (+E O X, -C, H A)
8 (+X, -A E, H C O)
9 (+A E, -X, H C O)
I think it's safe to rule out 1, 2, 7 and 9, they have too many positive traits, the general type that probably could score the lowest in all I believe is cp6, since the only real affected one is E, and since it's counterphobic half of the criteria pretty much are out, mostly if sx/sp, the 5 wing brings in 5 traits that kind make no sense with what 8 brings (X), so it kind of balances out, H is still pretty high so tritype 3 makes sense to bring it down, so we have low H, kinda low E, kinda low X, low A, decent C, low O, which I think is the lowest it gets, 9 would make A too high, if core type pretty much max by default, and also increase E to an extent, and even the humility aspect of H to an extent too.

sp is correlated with E (fear of physical dangers), so it cannot be high, but so is high on the E social aspect and could be higher at X and A, sx/sp is kind of the only option? there is nothing really sx, maybe the social aspect of it, but E is too agaisn't sp, even then such sx aspects makes sense with cp6 so I think in a general way the type still makes sense.

Socionics, same deal as I did for enneagram.
LII (+O C, -A X, H E)
LSI (+C, -A O, H E X)
ILE (+O, -C -A -H, E X)
SLE (+X, -H A O, E C)
ILI (+O, -X C, H E A)
SLI (-X, H E A O C)
LIE (+C O, -H, E X A)
LSE (+C X, -O, H E A)
SEI (+A E, -C X, H O)
ESE (+E A X, -C, H O)
IEI (+O E A, -X C, H)
EIE (+X E O, -H, C A)
ESI (+C E, -O A, X H)
SEE (+X E, -O, H A C)
EII (+E H O C A, -X)
IEE (+O X E A H, -C)

There is a big problem with this, intensity, the general candidates for lowest HEXACO combination would be LSI, SLE, ILI and SLI, you would think SLI would be the worst, but low E is not always true since they value Fi, same goes for ILI, X is also not that low since they have Se ignoring, which supposedly means they do not have a problem with Se stuff, but they just do not value it, that goes for pretty much everything, it's a very balanced type, A is also balanced since they are respectful of what other people believe but since they value Te there is some stuff that crosses the line (also because of Ti ignoring), O is also pretty balanced because of Ne value but no "skill" in it, ILI is very high with O and ILI-Te can be pretty high at C, LSI is extremely high at C for obvious reasons, SLE is also there but the same for X, but it's the only type that I think can also be low at E and C, as much as they do not have problems with goals and difficult tasks, their surrondings and scheludes and all, is not really a thing they care about, E is also often too social and at times not even present in the form where there is fear of physical dangers, which kind of makes everything as negative (some slighty) but X possible.

Psychosophy is pretty hard, high F and L with low E and 3V can be correlated with low H, low A, low C, low E and to an extent because of F also low O, the problem is still kind of X but in this it is not that extreme and well 1F 3V is not the most X anyway, it seems to make sense and it's the lowest combination I can think of.

SO, in a general way, everything makes sense, I think, however it is pretty obvious that an absolute 0 is pretty much impossible, mostly as an universal type (someone can be typed while being an absolute 0), and by the way, if anyone knows some really really low HEXACO people, make sure I know about them, quite curious about how this system goes into practice into areas I'm not much into.

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2020-05-28 04:17:22pm (post #8243)

phsc

Well, the other approach does not work either, like I don't think 9 would end up being the lowest, H, E, A would be too high I believe, but it generates another problem, let's say it's voted like letter ISTP, function ISTP, 9w8, sx/sp, SLE, ok, what do you interpret from that type? I think it's not very possible, because there is some pretty weird stuff like SLE and 9, if SLI is voted instead, SLI is not the best fit by far, and it's not like the archetype came into my head and then into voting, I tried to achieve what makes most sense while still being possible or making sense betwen the systems, 0 0 0 0 0 0 is probably impossible, also HEXACO does both criteria for agreeableness.

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2020-05-28 03:24:50pm (post #8242)

strawberry crisis enfp 7

The issue with archetype voting here is that you're not really starting with the base assumption of "lowest in everything HEXACO" but instead come up with some sort of fixed archetype that you envision would end up scoring lowest. I don't think the One True Type approach is necessary here... just imagine what somebody lowest in HEXACO would get in each system and work from there. It should be ISTP (highest preferences), 9w8, sp/sx, SLI, etc. And right, the 8 wing in 9w8 probably erases some of the agreeableness that a balanced 9 would have (though I don't recall if HEXACO does passive or active agreeability for its criteria)

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2020-05-28 01:44:32pm (post #8241)

phsc

can you delete all most likelies

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2020-05-28 03:30:26am (post #8240)

phsc

"Persons with very high scores on the Agreeableness scale forgive the wrongs that they suffered, are lenient in judging others, are willing to compromise and cooperate with others, and can easily control their temper. Conversely, persons with very low scores on this scale hold grudges against those who have harmed them, are rather critical of others' shortcomings, are stubborn in defending their point of view, and feel anger readily in response to mistreatment."
I think 8 fits better, mostly because of the need to have some control? also not having problems with conflict? 9w8 is such a contradictory type anyway, also reading the H descriptions it kind of has to be tritype 3...

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2020-05-28 03:27:28am (post #8239)

phsc

"Persons with very high scores on the Emotionality scale experience fear of physical dangers, experience anxiety in response to life's stresses, feel a need for emotional support from others, and feel empathy and sentimental attachments with others. Conversely, persons with very low scores on this scale are not deterred by the prospect of physical harm, feel little worry even in stressful situations, have little need to share their concerns with others, and feel emotionally detached from others."
Yeah, sx/sp seems to make more sense, isn't there some attachment side to sx tho? which could generate a problem? the worry problem is also complicated, cp7w6? but then 7 is kind of too O? and also a tendency for X?
I do think that 9 is the better fit for tritype over 8, I'm very unsure if 3 or 4, I think 4 is a better fit, but the way someone interprets tritype makes it weird, 649 seems to passive, 648 seems edgy, with the low 8 value it kind of makes me think of someone who doesn't consider 8 things very important but is 8 over 9 and 1... I really hate this kind of poll, it's so hard to achieve the one true type!

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2020-05-28 03:24:05am (post #8238)

phsc

I think 9 probably would score much higher on A and to an extent H, I do think that cp6w5 would score decently on C (if it's a test it would be higher than what is real tho), E is kind of very social and expressive and really, the way one deals with the fear might make the fear be there but if it is not really being expressed... would they get a high result? and it kind of makes it social too which can be true but not for this specific archetype (going to explain it more a bit later), the low P preference is because O probably would be too high if more P, but with J there's a tendency for C, which generates a problem, and I'm kind of refering to a specific archetype, think of someone who is both schizoid and ASPD, it's possible, unlikely, but that combination would probably end up being the lowest HEXACO combo I think (low H, low E, moderate X? low A, moderate C, low O.
It's also the problem with SLE, SLE pretty much always is high on X, but the problem is that no other socionics type really would score low on other things, I also unsure if sx/sp or sp/sx, since E is kind of sp to an extent, it's a problem of typology, basically everything means too much for you to achieve something as specific as someone who is very low on HEXACO.

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2020-05-28 03:13:49am (post #8237)

strawberry crisis enfp 7

Also what’s with the weak preferences on the MBTI side? Is it supposed to indicate lack of importance or a presence of importance but an emphasized archetype

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2020-05-28 02:54:13am (post #8236)

strawberry crisis enfp 7

counter 6w5 would probably score decently on C and E. 9w8 is better

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2020-05-28 02:50:56am (post #8235)

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