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Adolf Hitler ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

Adolf Hitler

German Politics

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INFJ 12
ISFP 3
ENFJ 1
ENTJ 1
INTP 1
6w5 17
cp6w5 1
so/sx 5
sx/so 5
so/sp 1
sp/so 1
sx/sp 1
EIE 14
ILI 1
LSI 1
VELF 8
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public myers-briggs votes
(22/08/26 10:10) GIJOEBusta Cap: INFJ
(22/03/01 23:32) Woll Smoth: INFP
(22/01/29 01:57) Darkstar: ENTJ
(21/08/18 12:37) Lawless: INFJ
(21/04/22 02:47) devilgirl666: ENFJ
(21/03/18 15:28) Thyssen: INTJ
(21/03/17 16:00) Jacobus: INFP
(21/03/16 22:42) Tman: NFJ
(20/07/27 04:08) Flower-like: NFJ
(20/06/27 07:10) fleetingpetals1: INT
(20/05/04 20:11) ftp: ESFP
(19/05/31 03:54) jt: INTP
(19/03/17 04:39) fsninetwo: INFJ
(19/03/08 23:15) thormns: INTJ
(18/12/06 18:42) twinpinks: INFJ
(18/11/13 22:26) tch: INFJ
(18/10/13 23:31) switchblades: IxTP
(18/10/13 18:35) Thunraz475: F
(21/03/16 23:09) LadyX: INTJ
(18/09/15 09:52) alesarto: INTJ
(18/09/15 06:36) Teru Mikami: INTx
(18/06/22 09:12) Sleeper: ISFJ
(19/05/30 08:13) fg: ENFP
(18/05/12 04:43) Nyx: INFP
(18/05/15 07:39) edza: ISTP
(18/05/06 09:38) Mineshield: INFJ
(18/05/05 04:44) strawberry crisis: ISTP
(19/06/03 15:15) Taco110: INTP
public function votes
(22/08/26 10:10) GIJOEBusta Cap: INFJ
(22/03/01 23:32) Woll Smoth: INFJ
(22/01/29 01:57) Darkstar: INFJ
(21/05/16 19:14) Tman: INFJ
(21/04/22 02:47) devilgirl666: ENFJ
(21/03/18 15:28) Thyssen: ISFP
(21/03/17 16:00) Jacobus: INFJ
(19/05/31 03:54) jt: INTP
(21/05/13 22:23) Lol: ISFP
(19/03/17 04:39) fsninetwo: INFJ
(18/12/06 18:22) tch: INFJ
(18/12/03 18:58) Taco110: INFJ
(18/05/13 02:47) SigmaEnigma: INFJ
(18/05/12 04:22) fg: ISFP
public enneagram votes
(22/08/26 10:10) GIJOEBusta Cap: 6w5
(22/01/29 01:57) Darkstar: 6w5
(21/04/22 02:47) devilgirl666: 6w5
(21/03/18 15:28) Thyssen: 6w5
(21/03/16 22:42) Tman: 6w5
(20/05/15 07:39) Phantom: 6w5
(19/05/31 03:53) jt: 6w5
(19/05/30 19:25) Lol: 6w5
(19/03/17 04:39) fsninetwo: 6w5
(19/01/05 16:01) Eva Braun: 6w5
(18/11/13 22:28) tch: 6w5
(18/10/22 17:28) ForestSketcher: 6w5
(18/09/27 00:51) LadyX: 6w5
(18/09/15 06:36) Teru Mikami: 6w5
(18/05/15 10:08) EON: 6w5
(18/05/06 09:39) Mineshield: 6w5
(18/05/05 03:38) Taco110: 6w5
public instinctual variant votes
(22/08/26 10:10) GIJOEBusta Cap: so/sx
(22/01/29 01:57) Darkstar: sx/so
(21/04/22 02:47) devilgirl666: so/sx
(21/03/16 22:42) Tman: so/sx
(19/03/17 04:40) fsninetwo: sx/so
(18/12/03 19:03) Taco110: sx/sp
(18/11/13 22:27) tch: so/sx
(18/09/27 00:52) LadyX: sp/so
(18/09/15 06:36) Teru Mikami: so/sp
(18/06/22 05:19) kawaii: sx/so
(18/05/12 04:22) fg: sx/so
public tritype® votes
(22/01/29 01:57) Darkstar: 684
(21/04/22 02:47) devilgirl666: 684
(21/03/16 23:09) LadyX: 648
(21/03/16 22:49) Tman: 648
(20/05/15 07:40) Phantom: 648
(19/06/08 17:04) ResoluteSoul: 614
(19/03/17 04:40) fsninetwo: 61x
(18/12/03 19:05) Taco110: 614
(18/09/15 07:32) kawaii: 614
public sociotype votes
(22/08/26 10:10) GIJOEBusta Cap: EIE
(22/01/29 01:57) Darkstar: EIE
(21/04/22 02:47) devilgirl666: EIE
(21/03/18 15:28) Thyssen: EIE
(21/03/17 16:00) Jacobus: EIE
(21/03/16 22:49) Tman: EIE
(20/05/15 08:30) fleetingpetals1: ILI
(20/05/15 07:38) Phantom: EIE
(20/02/28 02:32) Lol: EIE
(20/01/19 19:35) zazu: EIE
(18/12/03 19:02) Taco110: EIE
(18/11/13 22:27) tch: EIE
(18/10/17 08:01) magnets29: EIE
(18/10/13 23:32) switchblades: EIE
(18/06/22 04:48) fg: EIE
public psychosophy votes
(21/05/13 22:23) Lol: VELF
(21/03/18 15:28) Thyssen: VELF
(21/03/17 23:40) Tman: VELF
(20/09/06 07:48) Flower-like: VELF
(20/06/27 07:10) fleetingpetals1: VELF
(20/05/15 07:38) Phantom: VELF
(19/10/19 11:06) fg: VELF
(19/10/15 20:18) Jacobus: VELF
public hexaco votes
(21/03/18 15:28) Thyssen: HEXACO
12345tp12345 INTP 5w6
re: 8742
most unhealthy you mean
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2021-05-11 02:53:02pm (post #8745)
jungagain INFP 6w7
Most EIE to ever EIE
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2021-05-11 01:10:08pm (post #8742)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
re: 8701
I agree that we can't empirically measure the personality type of dead people, but claiming that we can't "reduce human behavior to a formula?" I mean yes and no. There are some pretty well established scientific principles in Psychology (mostly dealing with behavior), but that doesn't mean every part of every persons personality can be reduced to a theory, because that would be stupid and no one is even trying to do that.
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2021-03-18 05:40:38pm (post #8707)
Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE
re: 8703
The world is a dream, and, in a way, even the laws of thermodynamics were invented.
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2021-03-18 01:20:55pm (post #8704)
Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE
re: 8698
Things that are inherently non-empirical, such as the personality type of a long-dead famous person, do not require data or statistics because they cannot be "proven" in the typical sense. It's pointless to attach oneself to any method in these cases because doing so is besides the point, and attempting to reduce such grand and indefinable things as human behavior to a formula is a kind of stupidity.
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2021-03-18 01:19:30am (post #8701)
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4
He means he can't articulate his thoughts as they don't make any sense.
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2021-03-18 12:11:45am (post #8699)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
re: 8696
What do you mean by "Intuition?" Because it kind of sounds like your saying people don't need statistical evidence to prove stuff when they have a strong gut feeling that what they believe is true.
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2021-03-17 11:34:34pm (post #8698)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
re: 8695
It seems like a philosophical system that wouldn't allow us to determine that there weren't invisible hypos in every room would be impractical at best.
Just to be clear, I'm claiming that MBTI has not been empirically proven. If someone wanted to argue against that point, the burden of proof would be on them.
At this point though, it really seems like we actually mostly agree; you seem to more view MBTI as a helpful subjective guide rather then an objective scientific fact, and are more frustrated with inconstancy with definitions.
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2021-03-17 11:30:45pm (post #8697)
Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE
the use of data and statistics is unnecessary and even misleading where intuition is sufficient
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2021-03-17 11:02:06pm (post #8696)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
re: 8691
So then how do we deterimin weather or not MBTI accurately describes the world? Is there a way we can evaluate abstract concepts?
My criticism of your writing is more that your thoughts aren't clearly organized. If there's to much information, it all just starts to look like background noise, and it's difficult to tell what are the important bits.
Also, all data and scientific studies are faulty appeals to authority, because "it could be faked?" So we can't scientifically provide evidence for anything?
The burden of proof isn't on me to find evince against MBTI, because you can't prove a negative. Russel's Teapot and all that.
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2021-03-17 10:11:31pm (post #8693)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
re: 8688
Oh also I said,
"Empirically untested, o̲r̲ ̲p̲r̲o̲v̲e̲n̲ ̲u̲n̲r̲e̲l̲i̲a̲b̲l̲e̲"
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2021-03-17 09:26:53pm (post #8690)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
re: 8688
To be perfectly blunt, I can't understand you a lot of the times because your a bad writer. You tend to write things out in these long, stream of conciseness style screeds, where it feels like your trying to cram down every single thought that comes into your head onto the text box as quickly as possible. I know it's rich coming from Captain Spelling Errors over here, but it's the truth.

Second off, not all appeals to authority are fallacious; it only becomes so when the authority is irreverent. My point was that Psychologists tend to reject MBTI because of a lack of empirical evidence; I wasn't saying they were right just because they were Psychologists.

I agree you can prove something without Empirical evidence, but in that case, by what standard of Evidence could we possibly say MBTI was true? Are we going to prove it from Cartesien first principles?

The Astrology thing was mostly hyperbole.
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2021-03-17 09:23:17pm (post #8689)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
re: 8686
I'd love to be proven wrong on this front, because I personally find MBTI very helpful. It's just that all of the evidence seems to point against it.
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2021-03-17 07:51:30pm (post #8687)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
re: 8685
I mean, you do know all forms of MBTI are either Empirically untested, or proven to be unreliable right? Like, no actual "Objective Sources" promote it, and most Physiologists specializing in personality view it as Pseudo Science. Like, your pretty much gate keeping Astrology here.
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2021-03-17 07:49:45pm (post #8686)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
By IDR functions I just meant "the none Socionics functions." So, for ISFP: it would go Fi, Se, Ni, Te. are we referring to the same basic theory here? I apologize for the confusion.
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2021-03-17 02:22:04pm (post #8683)
Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI
PHSC, why ISFP in terms of IDR functions?
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2021-03-16 10:46:28pm (post #8680)
ftp ISTP 9w8 SLI
pee pee poo poo
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2020-05-04 07:53:01pm (post #8174)
Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?
he was also on meth

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2019-05-30 05:47:00pm (post #6202)
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST
according to Johann Chapoutot ( historian specialist of nazism who made a biography of hitler) he was not a planner at all. according to him the german military strategist did all the work.  he only succeed to fake a lot of millitary skills because he was hypermnesic.

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2019-05-30 05:31:24pm (post #6200)
Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?
+ real intuitives wouldn't use wooden doors

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2019-05-30 08:22:52am (post #6195)
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST
he was not J at all . he was very lazy, spend most of his time of ruling at watching movies, was very impredictible, a lot of the third reich's doing are his  comment in private interpreted by his high ranked follower in a more "professional way", he did not even plan to make a jude extermination at first, at the start he planned to deport them but he saw that was too much complicated so he choosed to eliminate them .

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2019-05-30 08:20:00am (post #6193)
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4
Russian trolls don't have a type

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2018-06-22 10:04:37pm (post #1430)
Sleeper xxTx Nein SLE
Remember what your brain is for.
Guess Trump isn't literally Hitler then...

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2018-06-22 09:12:21pm (post #1429)
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST
i agree with your comment about anti semitism and hitler's place on history

not every politician win because he understand people, it can be party dynamic, or because he convinced people with reasonable argument, or just because the people was against the precedent candidate. Hitler only used passion .

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2018-05-15 10:13:48am (post #538)
EON INFP
One could argue every politician who ever won president "understood his people", but that doesn't make them all F.

Hitler was a case of the right man at the wrong time, he didn't manipulated an entire nation's minds and turned them all into racists and war-mongers; anti-semitism was already there.

Hitler was a great speaker, not someone who read people's minds. 

He attacked Russia because he was a megalomaniac.

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2018-05-15 10:06:51am (post #537)
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST
i did not said that he was dumb but his intelligence was based on understanding of germany people's feeling and he use it, instead of rational intelligence(like strategy or problem solving). being ruthless does not mean being a T. Hitler's project was not based on his nation's interest why he would attack Russia if it was his objective(and if it is he is was not enough methodic to do it)

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2018-05-15 08:26:20am (post #533)
edza ENTJ 8w7 SLE
I wish there was a way to vote IxxP.

"I follow my course with the precision and security of a sleep-walker." - Hitler

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2018-05-15 07:41:12am (post #532)
EON INFP
T types are perfectly capable of being dumb, so him being a poor strategist doesn't prove anything.

He relied on inspiration/insight more than logic or human considerations, which would make him perception focused.

He took the most ruthless methods to achieve his goals: to ensure the survival of his nation by eliminating its percieved enemies and gaining territories. Not sure how is this F at all. Ruthless focus on goals above basic empathy is T. The problem is F had ended up meaning "irrational" or "charismatic", thus Hitler as F.

The day Hitler would be seen as T is the day the MBTI community will manage to think straight again.

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2018-05-15 06:31:59am (post #531)
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST
i don't see how this man could be seen as a T (Te or Ti), beyond the "ah he is a bastard he must be a T". this guy his motivated by his feeling and lacked of logic (so not a Ti dom or aux) and was a poor strategist (weakTe). ISFP is more probable for him than INFP, his focus on Nazi aesthetics and his impulsive nature is more Se than Ne.

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2018-05-15 04:44:10am (post #530)
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