tman ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

tman ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

tman

Sakinorva Databank

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INTP 7

INFP 2

INTJ 1

4w5 9

5w4 5

cp6w7 1

8w7 1

sp/sx 5

sp/so 1

sx/sp 1

ILI 5

ILE 2

IEE 2

SEI 1

LII 1

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LFEV 3

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public myers-briggs votes

(21/01/17 23:44) Jacobus: INTP

(20/07/23 23:57) fleetingpetals1: INTP

(20/10/26 15:31) Flower-like: INTP

(20/04/15 23:45) Shinkim717: INTP

(20/05/11 09:27) Thyssen: INTP

(19/08/01 02:54) ally: NFP

(20/01/08 23:13) Tch: INxP

(19/06/23 23:41) Ch-ngch-ng: IxxP

(19/06/17 19:42) ResoluteSoul: INTP

(19/06/08 12:07) Diobono: INxP

(19/09/08 17:14) fg: INP

(19/05/12 21:36) HairyBalls-: xxxP

(19/12/23 14:05) phsc: INP

(19/10/11 00:44) LadyX: INFP

(20/08/12 16:39) Tman: INTP

(19/05/29 21:53) Hashbit: xxxP

(19/02/07 20:51) Taco110: INTP

public function votes

(21/01/17 23:44) Jacobus: INTP

(20/07/14 14:54) Flower-like: INTP

(20/07/11 04:13) fleetingpetals1: INFP

(20/04/15 23:45) Shinkim717: INTP

(19/11/23 11:52) phsc: INTP

(19/05/22 05:46) fg: INFP

(19/01/24 00:45) tman: INTP

(19/01/23 19:10) Taco110: INTP

(19/01/11 04:01) HashBIT: INTP

public enneagram votes

(21/01/17 23:44) Jacobus: 5w4

(20/07/17 23:18) Flower-like: 5w4

(20/04/15 23:44) Shinkim717: 5w4

(19/11/25 22:05) Thyssen: 4w5

(19/08/22 13:28) Teru Mikami: cp6w7

(19/08/05 01:50) ZOINKS: 5w4

(19/08/01 02:54) ally: 4w5

(19/06/17 19:42) ResoluteSoul: 4w5

(19/05/22 05:45) fg: 4w5

(19/05/12 21:36) HairyBalls-: 4w5

(19/05/11 22:55) phsc: 4w5

(19/10/11 00:44) LadyX: 4w5

(19/07/05 20:14) tman: 5w4

(19/05/23 20:04) Taco110: 4w5

(19/05/29 21:53) Hashbit: 4w5

public instinctual variant votes

(21/01/17 23:44) Jacobus: sp/sx

(20/04/15 23:45) Shinkim717: sp/sx

(20/07/25 13:32) Tman: sp/sx

(19/09/29 15:47) Thyssen: sp/sx

(19/09/20 00:50) LadyX: sx/sp

(19/07/13 18:35) phsc: sp/sx

(19/01/11 22:05) Taco110: sp/so

public tritype® votes

(20/11/16 08:40) Flower-like: 594

(20/04/15 23:45) Shinkim717: 514

(19/09/29 15:47) Thyssen: 945

(19/09/07 01:19) LadyX: 549

(19/07/30 20:17) phsc: 495

(19/07/12 22:35) B1oomer: 649

(19/06/17 19:42) ResoluteSoul: 459

(19/01/24 00:46) tman: 514

public sociotype votes

(21/01/17 23:44) Jacobus: LII

(20/07/23 17:37) Thyssen: ILE

(20/07/24 12:14) Flower-like: ILI

(20/07/11 04:09) fleetingpetals1: ILE

(20/04/15 23:45) Shinkim717: ILI

(19/12/23 13:57) phsc: SEI

(19/10/17 23:51) LadyX: ILI

(19/10/11 01:04) fg: IEE

(19/07/30 20:24) Teru Mikami: ILI

(19/02/06 14:39) tman: ILI

public psychosophy votes

(21/01/17 23:44) Jacobus: LVEF

(20/10/29 10:09) Flower-like: LVEF

(20/10/15 02:17) Diobono: LFEV

(20/07/23 23:57) fleetingpetals1: VLEF

(20/06/03 14:53) Thyssen: LFEV

(19/10/17 23:51) LadyX: LVEF

(19/10/15 16:14) phsc: LFEV

(19/10/15 14:59) Tman: LVEF

public hexaco votes

(19/10/17 23:51) LadyX: HEXACO

(19/10/16 13:34) phsc: HEXACO

Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

I think all of these, except the last one, can be attributed to logic first. I'm argumentative because debate engages my mind, and challenges my view of the world, allowing me to expand what I know. I think it's fairly common to have L 1st folks be prone to frustration with other people. For me, most of my frustration had to do with the intellectual dishonesty and lack of rationality I saw in people. The last one, about spelling, is probably due to my ADHD or something like that, not any personality trait.

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2020-07-25 01:10:52pm (post #8403)

Flower-like INFP 4

One of them is probably that you're 2nd Logic instead of 1st.

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2020-07-25 10:41:08am (post #8402)

Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

What's your point?

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2020-07-24 12:04:34pm (post #8401)

fleetingpetals1 4w5 Sx/Sp EVFL

"The main thing that isn't obsrable in my is that I'm honstly a really argmentive person. Most people tend to find it a little intense IRL. I tend to try and figure out what exeatly they think, and how there justifed in thinking it. I once argued with a guy for 6 hours, and would have gladdly done so for seven, but he had stuff to do. Most people need a break after a little while, and some even take it as me being angery at them. I have that core skeptism in me."

"At the time I was a bit of a misanthrope, who to some extent really did think he was better then eveyone else"

"Once again, I'm just that bad. I don't care other people spell words corectly, becuse my brain automaticly fills in the right anwsers."

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2020-07-24 12:06:52am (post #8400)

Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Were good.

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2020-04-22 01:05:51pm (post #8102)

Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE

Tman, I'm too mean to you. Sorry about that.

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2020-04-22 10:28:11am (post #8101)

Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Merry Christmas everbody!

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2019-12-25 02:04:33pm (post #7553)

Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Hey man, sorry, been busy with finals then with holday stuff. Your first coment (in combadantion with others) will require a longer response then I intead to write here (alought I hope to get done by the end of January.) I chose L becuse A: I thought we were simliar in type B: becuse I felt some conecton with the charter. Orginaly I felt I had the most in commen with Light (though not in a good way.) At the time I was a bit of a misanthrope, who to some extent really did think he was better then eveyone else; Death Note realy woke me up to how toxic I was to some extent. However, by the time I reached this website, I related more to L. I'd grown out of a lot of the pride and biterness I had at that time. L had odd mannarisms like I do. I tend to sit kind of like he dose, in weird ways. I also tend to be a little blunt and off puting (all though you might not think so, as your one of the most strait forward peole I know, even for the inetenet.) C: I love Death Note. I think the show dose a great job of exploring it's charters and ideas, despite it's flaws in the mystery aspect.

More then any of these, I chose L becuse I was tired of having a blank face as a profile picture, and wanted a face.

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2019-12-25 12:27:28am (post #7551)

phsc

Ignored pretty hard I guess, but well, another curiosity of mine, tman, why do you use L as your profile picture? I really did not think tman would be the kind of person to care about notifications or realize that they exist and still do not but I guess I will still use the reply feature...

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2019-12-24 07:03:45pm (post #7550)

phsc

Tman I am extremely curious about what makes you think ILI, I have never seen you make an argument for it, I can see INTP by most function definitions, as much as I have to agree with fg that by IDRlabs and similar definitions that focus most on looking at things in an archetypal way, you fit INFP but I think that concepts such as Fe inferior by most definitions - and again, for the like 5th time, WHAT DEFINITIONS DO YOU USE? source? write them down if you do not have an specific source - but I believe you do not value Se at all, you seem not to care about it, Ni is possible but since socionics is a system that, if something is A it implies that another thing is B, but I do not think you are Fe POLR, because you constantly make small talk and small social contact but in a way that seems quite... emotionally expressive to an extent? but in a very positive way, not like it is impossible but most of your social contact fits such criteria, and with anyone which is less common for those who supposedly value Fi, but then you did try to give me like some form of moral lesson in the discussion we had about me being ISTP or something which could be a Fi thing but then it can also be a Fe thing since it could you just trying to help me by taking an external source of ethics, but all I know is that you do seem to value Si, you did mention you were tired and all and I think mentioning it, and putting so much emphasis into it indicates that you do clearly value Si, most of your actions is Si, the fact you type like shit is probably Si if you do not check but even if check such incompetency and ineffectivity implied by it could be Te POLR, but well, back into it, I once used to believe IEE was the type but you do not seem to be annoyed by Ti use or related, if not even value it when people correct you, one being considered dumb does not mean such is Ti POLR or something, and Fe demonstrative would make sense, and you do indeed value Ne and use Ne constantly when you constantly change your mind, have nothing set, adapt, and you are quite creative with your votes I got to give you that, ILI is not really that ridiculous after all, if we take the cognitive styles by Gulenko I think dialectical-algorithmic is the best fit and both SEI and ILI would fit it, but I believe SEI to be the best option considering what I said before and now here, but I am curious about how you will reply to this (if you even do because a lot of the time you just ignore me), but the best fit seems to be SEI.

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2019-12-23 02:18:30pm (post #7539)

johncena UNKNOWN MBTI 3

watchya doing their knobatnight/heavyheart/doha

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2019-09-24 07:14:17am (post #7091)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

tbh

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2019-09-10 11:33:19am (post #7066)

Brainer ISTP 9w8 sp/sx

Enneagram 1 can't be dyslexic.

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2019-09-10 11:10:39am (post #7065)

hairyballs- esfj

What brain

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2019-09-07 08:53:32pm (post #7064)

LadyX intp 5

tman - I am totally fine with the misspellings - however they are not indicative of someone with a 1 in their tritype - I just thought it was worth mentioning that you might be more likely to have 9 in your tritype.

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2019-09-07 08:35:16pm (post #7063)

Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Lady X, I also recheck my words when I make a long post. Once again, I'm just that bad. I don't care other people spell words corectly, becuse my brain automaticly fills in the right anwsers.

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2019-09-07 05:04:07pm (post #7062)

Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

I do. I'm just that bad.

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2019-09-07 05:01:58pm (post #7061)

phsc

I think it would make someone at least check using like fucking google or word to see if it auto-fixes it

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2019-09-07 03:21:13pm (post #7060)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

Lady "enneagram determines genetic learning disabilities" X

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2019-09-07 03:14:11pm (post #7059)

LadyX intp 5

Nope.

But it does correlate with compulsive checking, re-checking --- determined motivation to get spelling correct --- even occasional outrage at others who don't care whether their spelling is correct.

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2019-09-07 02:34:00pm (post #7058)

Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

You serously think having a one in your tirtype makes you good at spelling?

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2019-09-07 02:11:06pm (post #7057)

LadyX intp 5

A 1 in the tritype seems a bit of a stretch (e.g. spelling situation). A pretty calm approach, in general - seems like a 9 in the tritype fits better.

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2019-09-07 01:23:35am (post #7055)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Okay I see.

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2019-07-31 08:11:43pm (post #6803)

phsc

I actually am one of the few who believes SEI is a smart type, most SEIs I've met weren't dumb, they just didn't think a lot, but when they did they were quite good at it, the fact you change your mind says nothing, SEIs often change their minds too, even more than ILIs from my experience, and yes everyone could be lying, I just don't see that making sense considering your behaviour here, considering that I am socially awkward and really don't have any reason at all to leave my house, it makes sense for that to be true, I truly don't know why low I votes, I was making fun out of the lack of information people have, it is clear I am more introverted, in discord and mostly in real life it shows much better but I tend to be more extroverted on forums.

So here is the thing, I am quite close to two SEIs, and both of them said the same thing as you, but I believe an ILI would say the same, about conserving energy for when one needs it, I mean it could indicate Si valuing because you're comfortable and don't want to be less comfortable by using energy but that could also be Te efficiency, also I did consider dumb ILI but again I think you're a Si valuer and not a Se one, also you probably value Ne instead of Ni too, changing your mind like that is more similar to someone like Teru than some random Ni user, and again I got to say you're pretty creative, I don't see Ni ignoring fitting well.

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2019-07-31 08:07:34pm (post #6802)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Teru, are you voting just to fuck with PHSC?

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2019-07-31 07:12:34pm (post #6800)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

The main thing that get's in the way of you is prejucie. You think ILI is one of the "good" smart types, and I'm one of the "bad" not smart people. I am skeptical of myself and others. I constatly change my mind based of my own reasoing. I change my mind based on the reasoings of others when there good. FG is the one who corects me most of the time, in the past it's also been you. Okay so I could be lieing? So couldn't you? You said "I can't be .25% introvet, I've never left my house for two weeks." Well how do I know youre not lieing? You're applying a double standard. Okay so I'm dumb. Why should i not then just be a dumb ILI? It's not that I'm never willing to put in effert. It's more that I conserve my energy for when I'm going to need it.

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2019-07-31 07:10:58pm (post #6799)

phsc

"ILIs sometimes use a mocking and aggressive tone if they believe that the information being presented is wrong or absurd."

That doesn't fit you - keep in mind I am only going to consider your behaviour here because you can just lie about everything else - but it does fit someone like Diobono who is ILI.

"You rember how was realy unsure of my wings for a while? Or constalty change my vote, even when the precented difrence was that of 25%? Yeah that's why. I tend to go based of a gut instinct, and then go back and change it, and then vote based of a gut insticnt, and then go back and change it."

The only other person I am sure uses the same mentality for voting is Taco, who is LSE. Changing your mind can also be Ne, Teru sometimes also changes his votes, two cases that quickly come to mind are Bones and Tarantino, but a lot of other people too, you do that much more, but then Diobono doesn't do that a lot, Kawaii also does not (Ni dom), Mike also did not, of course they did change their minds, I believe it is because of Ne ignoring, while I believe you aren't that, I also change votes but it is mostly insights that someone might be something completely different that I stop to verify for and then vote if it makes sense, or remove my vote if I am unsure.

"I don't have Si in my ego block. I'll often go long peroids to time without eating, and in genraly don't give a shit about physcail comfert. I'm often completly oblivous to how my body is feeling. I have a hard time telling when I'm sick. Often times, I'll go an entire day without drinking water, and then, when I go to get a glass, I start chuging it down, and suddnly relize I was parched all day. I know that sound exagrated to the point of parody, but I sware to God, it's the truth."

This is interesting because I have a quite close func. magic INFP friend who is SEI-Si, he sometimes goes a day without drinking water because he doesn't to get up and drink or he forgets, but he does enjoy the experience, he cares about it, it's comfort for comfort, physical one to eating, I am unsure about the feeling sick part but I have a SLI friend who was able to fucking not eat for 3 days while sick for a very important reason, but he does value and care about comfort (it is a long history for me to explain), it is not all about eating or drinking, being comfortable is also important.

"Because ILIs are confident about analyzing the implications of the knowledge that they have gathered, ILIs often appear perceptive, especially in fields of interest, and commonly tend to view the ideas of others with skepticism and scrutiny."

You don't appear perceptive at all, as I mentioned nobody thinks you're a good typist, the best thing I've seen you do is ISFP for ResoluteSoul which I had not considered and makes a lot of sense, your correlations aren't obvious but they also don't make sense, many cases where other ones which are obvious make much more sense, such as me being INTJ or INTP instead of ISTP, you explain your thinking but still, other alternatives are better, I did imagine you were thinking of Ti-Ni as in a loop, that is obvious, same goes for INFJ (I think kawaii was the one who had the idea first that I could be looping Ni-Ti even tho he is not much into function magic).

"The main thing that isn't obsrable in my is that I'm honstly a really argmentive person. Most people tend to find it a little intense IRL. I tend to try and figure out what exeatly they think, and how there justifed in thinking it. I once argued with a guy for 6 hours, and would have gladdly done so for seven, but he had stuff to do. Most people need a break after a little while, and some even take it as me being angery at them. I have that core skeptism in me. I do try really hard to be polite."

First that all could be a lie, here you are able to argue for a lot of time, as I am able, but you do need breaks, you needed two until now, while I needed zero, first one being when I was "angry" and the second to sleep, I actually am the one who doesn't care about that, here you are not that argumentative, me and fg are way more because of Ti ego, someone like Teru is also very argumentative (ILE-Ti), you don't come to me as the kind of person to be intense, now I on the other hand literally made a dude leave two discord servers because I was questioning him (Jaden who was an IEE and had a clear Ti polr), another example of someone who gets very angry at me when I question him is cena (SEE), but you try to be polite, but I believe I was being extremely polite with Jaden, but I am bad at that.

"The reaosn it dosn't come out towrds other people, is becuse, quite frankly, typing is hard, and time consuming, and I'm genrealy just prety happy makeing short little posts with one or two points, voting, and seeing what everbody else has to say."

Typing can mean both typing as in "hey you're LII!" or writing stuff down with your keyboard, I will make two replies because both cases are different and could fit, 1 is type as in socionics or MBTI and 2 is as by using your keyboard:

1 - I believe it is not, it can be time consuming sometimes because you have to learn about who you are typing, making short posts with a low amount of points doesn't make your better or worse, fg is not a bad typist and most of his comments are small.

2 - In this case it does make sense but I think you're being a hypocrite and running from "truth" as you kept talking in one of your comments in my poll, argue, simple as that, show your points.

But both cases can achieve the same thing, Te polr, you don't want to do something complicated that involves action or "getting to work", such as typing, I don't know if IxIs would be like that, xLI can many times me lazy and not develop their arguments, but I could easily see that applying to SEI and IEI, I guess it is a IP thing, I guess it annoys you, the polr is what causes annoyance, in my case it is force (I get extremely angry/annoyed at anything related to it), I could see you valuing Fi because of the respect aspect, I am unsure about Fe, Te polr seems to fit, a big Ni trait is being future oriented, Mike is very future oriented, Kawaii and Diobono I am unsure, it is a way of Ni showing, how future oriented are you? but even then, this can be a Te user trying to be effective with their time, thinking they have better things to do other than argue online (Ti ignoring!), but I am unsure about which fits you, do you get annoyed or do you do it out of efficiency?

The big question is, do you value comfort? do you value force? would you like an SLE/SEE in your life? what are the people you dislike the most from this community (I believe that type relationships can be extremely accurate and thus valid for typing), again I am unsure if I should believe your answers because you could just lie, but I guess trying is better than doing nothing.

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2019-07-30 08:15:16pm (post #6787)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Also keep in mind, I don't consider MBTI to be "high priorty."

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2019-07-30 06:21:17pm (post #6784)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

"Their views and perceptions naturally take into account any new factual information. For this reason, ILI's are often characterized by a nagging and constant sense of doubt, contradiction, and misinformation. They tend to be rather skeptical of other people's positions, and even frequently tend to question their own position. In groups the ILI will often question the validity of information being exchanged. Likewise, ILIs sometimes use a mocking and aggressive tone if they believe that the information being presented is wrong or absurd. ILIs can also be scrupulous in removing errors in facts and statistical data, especially in undertakings that they consider as high priorities."

This is the most stricking qoute to me in the ILI disciption.

You rember how was realy unsure of my wings for a while? Or constalty change my vote, even when the precented difrence was that of 25%? Yeah that's why. I tend to go based of a gut instinct, and then go back and change it, and then vote based of a gut insticnt, and then go back and change it.

I don't have Si in my ego block. I'll often go long peroids to time without eating, and in genraly don't give a shit about physcail comfert. I'm often completly oblivous to how my body is feeling. I have a hard time telling when I'm sick. Often times, I'll go an entire day without drinking water, and then, when I go to get a glass, I start chuging it down, and suddnly relize I was parched all day. I know that sound exagrated to the point of parody, but I sware to God, it's the truth.

"ILIs are often stereotypically represented as reclusive scholars, philosophers, scientists, artists, seers, and sages. The ILI, with their often unusual perceptions, may come across as unreachable, esoteric eccentrics. Because ILIs are confident about analyzing the implications of the knowledge that they have gathered, ILIs often appear perceptive, especially in fields of interest, and commonly tend to view the ideas of others with skepticism and scrutiny."

In other word, I tend to vote of an internilized serries of conections that arn't imdeatly obvous. Look at my typolgy. To be fair, there not always good. Sometimes my brain gose of on a tangent of conections that end in nothing.

The main thing that isn't obsrable in my is that I'm honstly a really argmentive person. Most people tend to find it a little intense IRL. I tend to try and figure out what exeatly they think, and how there justifed in thinking it. I once argued with a guy for 6 hours, and would have gladdly done so for seven, but he had stuff to do. Most people need a break after a little while, and some even take it as me being angery at them. I have that core skeptism in me. I do try really hard to be polite.

The reaosn it dosn't come out towrds other people, is becuse, quite frankly, typing is hard, and time consuming, and I'm genrealy just prety happy makeing short little posts with one or two points, voting, and seeing what everbody else has to say.

So I hope that helps. Tell me if you need more info.

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2019-07-30 06:20:14pm (post #6783)

phsc

Si value over Se is clear, which indicates an alpha or a delta type, I believe you do not have "skill" at Te or Ti, Si ego makes a lot of sense for reasons I've mentioned earlier, you for sure do value Ne and Si, I don't know enought about you to check for Te polr but IP seems to make the most sense, the discussion we had earlier makes me think of SLI as kind of ridiculous, a general big lack of Te in it for Fi reasons, Fi demonstrative? but then you were valuing it, which is weird, EII could also be a possibility but IJ seems unlikely, I am unsure about your relationships for a more developed view on Fe or Fi, I think Teru was the one who mentioned you could be SEI a long time ago, it might be wrong, can you develop on your use of Fe and Fi by socionics definitions?

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2019-07-30 05:22:04pm (post #6780)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

This is my page. You're the one who keeps insisting on argumnts. I've given you one, down bellow your comment. You gunna make a rebutle or what?

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2019-07-30 05:14:09pm (post #6779)

phsc

I think IEE does not fit then, not Ti polr, definely not skilled at it, I'm not being a dick from my point of view, I'm not in my early teens, I don't really care about the feelings of anyone to be honest, including mine, but okay tman I guess I will try not to offend you.

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2019-07-30 05:12:05pm (post #6778)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Well maybe you know more about socionics then me. I'm not frustrated with your Ti. I'm frustrated with you being a dick. Logic is fine. Honestly, in my early teens, I thought in a very similarly to you. I would say that people should just shut up and only listen to my facts, and that it didn't matter if I hurt there feelings. But it's possible to make a good argument without being rude. It's true I have a duty to consider what you say outside of your behavior. But that doesn't justify character attacks.

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2019-07-30 04:59:46pm (post #6777)

phsc

That is not about Fi, it is about you making shit out of nowhere and being unable to argue, and following some weird morality thing about I not being worth explaining your argument to, also Fi from a socionics point of view makes a lot of sense because it means either Fi role or Fi polr, Fi polr gets very annoyed by use of Ti, you have no 8 behaviour at all, 9w1 makes a lot of sense, you have some 1ness such as what I mentioned before about your use of func magic Fi, and I have you as 495, my first impressions of you were of a 9, but you're not directly running from conflict how a 9 would, take a look at ResoluteSoul, he literally runs from me.

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2019-07-30 04:34:06pm (post #6776)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Yes, becuse only Fi users get annoyed when you call them retards. That must be cause I hate logic though.

Srls though, why not 9w8? If I really am just looking for comfert (inner peace,) and passevly argesivly avoiding conflect, without a care for logic, why not a 9?

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2019-07-30 03:50:17am (post #6769)

LadyX intp 5

tman is mysterious and sometimes his typings take me by surprise. I don't always agree with him, but many times I've changed my mind after seeing his perspective, and I've appreciated that.

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2019-07-30 05:27:23am (post #6768)

phsc

Explaining the IEE vote, clearly doesn't value Ti and doesn't give a fuck to it and probably gets annoyed by it(he mentions that he was annoyed after my "discussion" with him), values Fi which is shown when he doesn't want to argue with me because I am not worth his time and I am not acting in good faith, Ne is shown when he constantly changes his votes and does quite creative votes which aren't supported by logic many times (Elon Musk ESFP is a good example), clearly values Si and that can be shown when he doesn't bother typing like a normal human and does shit grammar because he is comfortable not doing that, the fact he types a lot of characters from movies, anime, etc, could also indicate it being a strong function or valued at least, Fe I am unsure, tman doesn't show Se at all and I am unsure about any form of Ni too, I don't think demonstrative Fe works very well, SEI is also a possible type for tman but I think Fi fits better than Fe, while IP fits way better than EP.

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2019-07-29 09:47:20pm (post #6761)

phsc

The first option is the one, doesn't argue, instead runs from arguments and keeps talking about how I am not "mature" and how I am "angry" as in even if I was it would make a difference in an argument, ad hominem.

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2019-07-29 08:54:43pm (post #6749)

phsc

I am unsure if INTP fits because I don't know if he "feels" someone is a type or he actually thinks, because he literally doesn't explain shit and it all looks extremely retarded, jesus christ.

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2019-07-29 06:47:28pm (post #6740)

phsc

tman how old are you?

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2019-07-08 05:26:38am (post #6592)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

psch, sorry it took so long but it sounds like your typolgy is almost exatly the same as mine. I tend to "type on the fly" reasoning my way through till I get to what makes the most sense.

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2019-07-04 06:00:32pm (post #6563)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

get off war thunder bro

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2019-06-07 04:28:28pm (post #6320)

phsc

Hi there tman, Teru made a discord server, and some people want you there.

https://discord.gg/sfmeAFF if that does not work add me at phsc#1568

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2019-06-07 01:37:54pm (post #6317)

Taco110 Ni-Se 8w9 sp/sx SLE-Ti

Tman, you could be a 5 as none of us really know you IRL, but you don't seem to act like one. Granted, enneagram is about motivations not solely behavior/traits, but motivations are often a precursor for behavior/traits. I could see any of the withdrawn types for you, with 4 > 5 > 9 being the likely order. Perhaps you're a 4 with a really powerful 5-wing, but you could very well be 5w4. You also seem kinda laidback and too low-key to have a 1-gut, which points more towards a 9w1 gut for you and in all likelihood a triple withdrawn tritype.

@phsc To clarify about gut feeling based typing. I don't vote entirely based on gut, but I usually have an idea or hunch of what I think the person or thing's type may be, at least initially. If I'm right, then I'm right and will stand by it. However, if there's a convincing and well-thought out argument or evidence that points contrary to it then I will consider it and change it if I get the sense that I was wrong initially. Also, if my initial vote doesn't make any sense and I come to the conclusion on my own that I may have been wrong then I will change the vote too. Ultimately, I do like to keep an open mind and am not turned away from any alternative evidence or points of view.

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2019-05-23 09:10:29pm (post #6049)

phsc

Gut feelings are not really a thing that would make me vote 5 or T for one, and I also come here for fun; what does that have to do with it? not meeting your in real life could even be worse, I'm pretty sure that, if everybody knew typology, some would think I am 3w4 or 1w9 meeting me in real life, maybe even 8w7, as well as LII to even SLE, because ones behaviour can change as well as the view one has on another, and this is why I tend to wait with a constant income of information before typing others.

Past the game part, I was not really able to understand what you said after that because of how terrible you are at using your keyboard, but now here is the thing, I am a 5 and the website seems to agree with that, so here is the thing, don't you want to be competent, useful and seek knowledge in games? I did that in let's say DOTA 2 which is a game I play a lot, I did this here, quickly learning about socionics, a system I did not know about, I try to be accurate with my typings, etc, so why don't you? that is what doesn't fit for 5 over 4 in my mind, also I don't see any 6 things in your, in my case you can see some 6 behaviour such as anxiety and even paranoia sometimes, with 5 being over it, I don't see that in you too, also, do you actually go and read the works made by the philosophers you type or do you just watch School of Life videos on them, or read small parts of Wikipedia articles that don't go deep into them, etc?

But I thank you for reacting the way you did, but I won't change my vote unless I have proof for me to do said thing and that is behaviour change but I won't easily change it because you as a 4w5 could change your behavior to fit into another type for a period of time so people change their votes, but I don't think that is going to happen, mostly with how you talk about your relation with the website.

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2019-05-23 06:21:39pm (post #6048)

Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

phsc, very obsrvant. I never vote to be difrent (Elon Musk was just a gut feeling.) I tend to more come here for fun. I'm convinced I'm a 5, becuse it fits my core motives, but you've never really met me, so it makes sesne. I more view this as a game. and am therefor mor forgiving of gut feelings, but when it comes to more serous subjects, I tend to any my freinds with my consant desire to back them up. Your spot on with how I put way to much of myself into my votes, espeacily if I relate to a charter.

Your idea makes perfect sense givin the evdince your working with. You're a pretty insighful guy. However, I still disagre with you, as I tend more towards a lot of traits of the 5 (seeking understanding above all else, fear of incomptence and uselessnes, desire to know everthing, ect) over the 4 traits, which are there, but which I would never call more core to my personilty then the 5 ones. Thank you so much for responding to me.

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2019-05-23 05:10:30pm (post #6045)

phsc

I will explain my vote in 3 parts, two as to why 4 and one as to why not 5, but keep in mind I am kinda assuming things here, or of course I might be just wrong, so just explain what does not fit.

1: It seems like you want to be different, this can be seen by how you almost always do different voting from others, not like everybody else other than you cannot be extremely dumb, but some cases it seems like you purely do it to be different, such as Darth Vader ESFP which the bext explanation I can have for is that you think type never changes and thus Vader is Anakin's type, but then... Elon Musk ESFP? I have a list of votes I consider weird from you https://pastebin.com/f9qqEKKU , some of your definitions are way off from the ones people here seem to use as well as your votes, and you seem not to care about it, if not maybe even enjoy it.

2: It seems like you put a lot of your personality into fictional characters, or real ones, a good case is your voting for Kant and Freud being exactly the same as what you considered yourself at the time you did it, how your profile picture is L from Death Note and your vote on him being similar to your type as you self identify, it just looks like you want to get a personality or a identity, of course I can be completely wrong but it seems to fit my theory of your type, this can be a 6 thing sometimes but it makes more sense to correlate with 4.

3: You don't seem analytical, most of your votes seem to come out of instinct or little thinking, not saying that is bad and some people such as Taco literally say that his voting method is guts, and that is no problem, but it many times seems to be at least weird, it seems like it is mostly instinct then you think over what you did, another thing is that, your votes being extremely different, you don't seem to care about understanding other peoples votes, the LII Kant over ILI, why is that? how is Kant a Ni Te over Ti Ne for his ego in socionics? INTP does make some sense in cognitive functions though, another thing is that you don't look like someone who goes deep into the philosophers you study, if you even do, unsure if you actually read their whole works, or just looks at the ideas, because your frequency of posting seems to be too quick, not saying that is bad or wrong but at least superficial, as well as it seems like when you type philosophy related ideas, and many times not fully the philosopher behind it, and how it seems like you don't research about who you're voting for before voting, even in the website, http://index.sakinorva.net/view?id=8204 for Loki when there is already a poll, http://index.sakinorva.net/view?id=1879 which is quite weird to say the least in my opinion, and another thing which is that you don't seem to get deep into things, you don't seem to know much about socionics, because your votes makes it look like you don't fully understand model A if that is what you use, or quadras which come out of the functions one values in socionics, how many of your enneagram typings looks like they come out of stereotypes and how it seems like you literally don't know what P and J are, and I have no idea of what your source on your cognitive function votes are, a good way to see how you compare to others is to just compare you to Jacobus and then any actual 5, Jacobus being a 4w5, and the fact his behaviour on the website is quite similar to yours.

Though as I already mentioned I can of course easily change my mind if you provide good arguments, also currious towards your reasoning behind cp5w6 which I find unlikely, and I find it unlikely for you to have a 1 in your tritype, you seem quite 9ish, the perfection part of 1 is quite funny when we consider how you just don't give a fuck to things such as grammar, checking if polls are already made, the website's rules, trying to get better when shown wrong or criticized, etc.

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2019-05-13 03:31:17pm (post #5945)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Why 4w5?

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2019-05-12 10:05:51pm (post #5937)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

I'm ligit currous. Really strugled with my wing for a long time.

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2019-01-24 12:52:48am (post #4786)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx ILI

Yay I'm famous! Why 5w6?

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2019-01-24 12:34:55am (post #4783)

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