For healthy 1s, some times they have some weird world views or are just alienated by some cognitive function/other people/society/etc but well, if you are not talking about functions then I guess you are right about ESTJs and ESTPs then.

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ESTJs and mostly 1s want their opinion to be right instead of achieving truth, at least in my experience empiricism the best method of saying something is right!

But what is the correlation of it being a S idea? in my experience empiricism again it is more related to having Ti or Te high in your function stack, and there is also another thing, conversations are mostly about purely subjective topics, like, what is your favorite movie? it isn't pure logic, someone else has a different personality type, that likes different things, that acts in a different way thus receiving different experiences and also maybe even from a different culture and etc and for me, that is what a conversation is, but if we are trying to achieve something that has an answer, such as let's say, someone's type, it is about right and wrong, I mean I can say that the best debates are ISFPs 9w8, but that is wrong, even tho in this case it is a stereotype so it is kinda subjective.

And was that a indirect method to say that I am a ESTJ 1 because literally all I did on this website til now was argue or am I like using Ne nemesis or something?

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So, this is stereotyping.

ESTJs would be fine for debating, they are quite close minded and some times don't accept the fact they lost but ok, ENTJs and ENTPs tend to debate a lot, mostly ENTPs, I'd say it's because you can even say they are the best at it, but someone like an ESTP most of the time aren't really great at debates, the ESTP stereotype is the kind of person that uses fallacies a lot, at least from personal experience in other MBTI/Jungian Psychology communities.

But if that is not enought, ENTPs and ENTJs are more rare than ESTPs and ESTJs, and the type that comes to mind are mostly are the first two, so in a general way, we can say that if we take the % of ENTPs and ENTJs that debate and compare them to the % of ESTJs and ESTPs that debate, the ENTs would get a higher average but then I'm just assuming it who knows I might be completely wrong but nobody is going to do research over school cliques.

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