Cena, why did you vote me cp6w5 as an anonymous vote when you vote straw as cp6w7 as a public vote?

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I also did that with the starting points of reason and mathematics (I don't remember where exactly on the website but I'd guess somewhere in Teru's poll), but you still didn't answer, when did I say that arbitrary rules are bad? I mean I didn't say I dislike poetry for it being arbitrary, or that it is bad because of that? I wasn't being negative, the general comment was but not the poetry aspect, I mostly mention things that are extremely arbitrary as being negative.

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you did not but everytime you used this word it was with a negative connotation and sometimeit was lacking of pertinence. for example in your comment on LadyX page about arbitrary rules of poetry.

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when did i say that arbitrary = bad

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phsc, stop your bullshit with arbitrary, most rules are arbitrary, we don't deduce a norm from fact since David Hume so we have to make rule proposition at least partly arbitrary that we will impose

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Well I believe the problem is that functions are too limited by arbitrary rules and all of that, if you don't know what I'm talking about straw has a good article about it https://sakinorva.net/library/contextualizing_functions

But then I agree I fit Ni very well, just happens that considering aspects not very well shown here because there is not really many ways for me to do that here I believe I also have a very strong use of Te (mostly in real life but there is no way for you know if this is true) and internally Fi but then that is also even harder, I mean I really don't think I fit Se > Ni, it kind of looks like I am only considering lyrics but I actually do not purely do that, you can see I typed a few instrumental pieces and other Pink Floyd songs but it really has not much reasoning to it but like I'd type Echoes as INJ INTJ LII 5w4 541 sx/sp and it has some reasoning to it but then there are multiple ways to interpret such song (the one I believe the most is extremely not literal but it still follows the lyrics in a metaphorical way and the song developement as in purely instrumental and also fits the music theory behind it and some other aspects such as the experimental aspects of let's say inverting wah-wah pedals) but then it all depends on how you define functions and you still haven't mentioned what definitions you use which makes it extremely hard for me to make an actual argument and not fight for arbitrary uses of words (variables) for different concepts which is completely arbitrary after all for pure reasons sake!

tl;dr what definitions/authors do you follow, if you follow none and you just have your view of the functions then uh define them? also read the straw article if you haven't already

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Yeah, I changed my mind. Sorry about that, I know that's anoying, but I really do think you have Ni and Se. It's more in the way you go to "whats there" in the song, the text, over a metatextual evaluation of what the author meant. I still say your one of the best examples of a Ti user I've ever seen (I'm not going to repeat myself, we've talked about this before, and I don't want to waste your time.) I'm going to sit with what you've said for a while, but I think your right about how the pigs use (socionics) Fi. 

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tman you voted me as INTP then you probably went like "Ne blind/trickster/whatever name the function is in your own definition which is different from others" and then ISTP because I said the perspective doesn't matter but like, even from I don't know, Roger Water's perspective or the perspective of the pigs they are SLE? it all indicates that? it also makes a lot of sense considering sheep supposedly are EII? I don't know why I am bothering trying to change your mind?

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For like the e^(i*pi) + 1 time, which shall apply again, why the fuck am I not higher on N people, arguments, after straw told me how she didn't see anything other than 1.0 N I kind of stopped and realized that I also don't see and am truly curious about it?

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I don't quite get how you think that, but this is your page. Elaborate on my page if and when you feel like it.

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I really have a tough time seeing you as a V first buuuut ok ok.

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I know as much about it as Google Translate will let me know.

I'm VELF, as if you were curious.

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Actually I had a talk with Thyssen about it but wanted other opinions on what I would be, I agree with LVFE tho, didn't know you knew about it since I saw no votes by you on the type polls.

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Psyche Yoga/Psychosophy is actually somewhat easy to figure out. Do you value will, logic, emotion, or the senses the most, whether in processing information or in everyday life?

First position is, of course, the one you value most and the one most prominent in your character. Second is the one your most relaxed with and the one you use most when interacting with others. Third is the "conflict" position, i.e. the one where you'll take a contrarian or contradictary stance on. Fourth is obviously the one you value least, but still plays a role in your character as the antithesis of what you value most.

You come across as an LVFE, based on what I know of you:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&tab=wT&authuser=0&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20140408215506%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.strannik.de%2Flovesyntax%2F24_lwpe.htm

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tman, what do you think I am in psyche yoga?

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sociopath

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BPD female

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469

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Since the only possible discussion is tritype, from https://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/33751-Tritype-archetypes-and-variant-descriptions

5-3-1: one of the most cold-blooded and self-controlled of the Fives, this tritype is remarkably efficient, hard-working and competent, although a little bit anal as well. They demand recognition for their contributions and are fairly concerned with their image and intellectual value. Somewhat self-righteous and impatient with others, they are however pragmatic and tactful enough not to compromise their goals by being too inflexible. These Fives are very clever, self-confident, perfectionist, arrogant and glacial.
flavors: cold, composed, efficient and self-important

5-1-3: Most scientific and remote Five. Most technical. Uncomfortable with intense feelings.
5-1-3: exacting, methodical, organized and fairly self-righteous, these Fives have a compulsive need for logic and order in their environment. They are hard-working and more practical and pragmatic than other Fives, focusing on the efficiency and improvement of the systems that interest them. They also enjoy and expect receiving the deserved recognition for their efforts, considering their time and involvement very precious. This tritype is one of the most cool-headed, rigid and self-controlled.
flavors: exigent, methodical, formal and efficient

(for some reason the dude wrote two different descriptions for the same tritype? also what "a little bit anal" means is beyond my knowledge)

Both fit quite well, unsure which fits the best.

So those who voted on me for tritype, bring up the arguments

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The LII is easily annoyed by sensory over-stimulation, including loud noises, bright light, and temperature. On the other hand, he easily becomes "addicted" to more pleasurable things, such as music, which have a corresponding effect on his mood (Fe). When left to his own devices, the LII tends to oscillate unhealthily between total indulgence of the senses and total neglect (the latter especially when working on something he feels to be extremely important). He tends to feel guilty for indulging in hedonism for the sake of hedonism.

The LII can easily understand whether something is impractical or not, but prefers to explain why using structural principles. He dislikes rote memorization of dates and the like, but paradoxically will often have a mental store of many arcane pieces of information (such as the first 100 digits of pi) he finds interesting or equally absurd technical skills (like mastering a video game).

Such skills and information will either be a part of his leisure activities, or relate directly to his main interests, which he chooses not based on their immediate practical consequence, but on how interesting they are.

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Can someone fucking explain how I am low N?

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xe, it

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I don't know if jt is male or female.

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they?

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Oh god, they believe in the fucking law of attraction.

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were you in mbtibase? I first joined this image based mbti commuity in the last month of perseonality databank or mbti-databank or last 2 months... it was sure a wreck. Bonita, hisoka, hairspray, meldou, etc.

To explain the law of attraction I'd need a smilar concept. I realize "birds of a feather flock together" is vague and overused so instead ask a question... hmmm. phsc is prbably someone who doesn't like the idea of a private message feature in a website like this. I dunno if you have an account in personality cafe. I recommend you make one .

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I am not like you, I am not similar to you, I don't care about feelings at all not only other people's but also mine, which also means that I don't care about how I'm treated, I don't care about respect at all so feel free to insult me, I get to make requests and I can call you whatever I want if it doesn't break the website rules which aren't very well set but considering what happened in the past I believe this is extremely minor, I don't want to be a little edge lord or whatever, I'm not a 4 I don't need a personality or whatever like you probably did when you were younger, it's just that I find it more offensive to be compared to you than for someone to call me a retard, but good thing you're dumb so these correlations are almost always wrong and all you do is humiliate yourself.

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You honstly remind of my self when I was a lot younger. I can see definiete simaliarites. You don't care about other peoples feelings? Fine. Don't expect me to treat you with a whole lota respect back. You don't get to make requests. You don't get to start of with "how fucking stupid are you?" and then ask me to do something. You wanna be a little edge lord shit, cool, I can't stop you. I'll compare myself to all I damn well pleas. But nobyes feelings matter anyaways right? So it dosn't matter.

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Thought you were saying he was Ti dom, minor confustion.

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Tman how the fuck are you so stupid?

I constantly say that Teru is ENTP, he is a clear Ne Ti user, he has tertiary Fe which I talk about in a comment I made not long ago talking about him and Based, he's good at it but he doesn't care and still offends people, that's the thing, I literally said that, why are you telling me something I literally already told you? also please don't compare yourself to me.

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Teru isn't acatuly all that bad with Fe (he's pretty good at triggering people.) It's more he dosn't care about it.

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I think that approach to rules comes from an internalized Ti framework, that recognizes the importance of rules, but that makes them want to make sense to us.

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You're aporoch to athourty is very commen for Ti doms, it's not that we don't like rules, it's that we don't like stupid rules. Teru stricks me as more of an EXTP then IXTP. His Ti isn't really domaninte, and is more in copmation with Fe (sometimes he seems to just be trying to get a reacation.)

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Te is very like the arbitrary character of black sensing. pherhaps it's because i tend to be extremly focused on ideology but i noticed that Te in cf is very oriented towards authoritarianism and that's why i struggle seeing you as Te in cf. But i agree that you are hard to type in CF, that's why i did not voted about your type before a while. I was balanced between the 4 NT type (more likely the introvert of course) for you but could not decided which one . INTP remain my first guess for now but it is one of the typing that may be change on the future. but LII remain the one variable that remain constant abou you. so I will compare you to both INTPs LIIs and INTJs LIIs to make my final judgment later.

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I said you were LIE, dont think i ever had u as ILE, as for the rest believe me I tried reading it but this rubik's cube just needed solving I'll read it all one day trust me.

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my sources tend to be idr labs, funky mbti fiction and the book adict of mbti (for most part).

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Problem with academical competence is that it is arbitrary (people saying a thing is right does not make it right, teachers can be dumb many times) and the fact that people can learn and master a thing alone, but I do believe that sources are important and that is a Te characteristic (I constantly ask for people as to what source they use in cognitive functions, BY THE WAY TMAN YOU DID NOT ANSWER, also what do you use exactly, fg?) and I believe control and regulations are not exactly bad but how they are done, when they are done and how they are done is the problem, I actually dislike chaotic servers, I am very organized myself, I have a personal server which is extremel well organized, but I prefer lack of organization than arbitrary useless rules such as some which are in the server for Saki and Galaxy's one, I dislike Based's server which you joined because of how literally there is nothing that indicates rules other than Based's arbitrary decision, while Teru's server is much better, it is not necessarily not organized or a mess, it has very limited rules (you cannot fuck up the server, by that hacking or extreme spamming or deleting channels but I am unsure if that is even possible), and it has channels for things:

gods-commandments is for making fun out of people, niggas-of-the-round-table is for actual organization for roles and etc, complaints-suggestions has a name that explains it, wall-of-fame is to post the worst things people say (cena is the most common on it btw), reception also explains itself, kek-or-cringe is to post memes, contraband is for bots, scottys-solitary-confidenement-chambers is for making fun out of people (by far scotty being the biggest target), nanjing-massacre is for in a general jokes which tends to involve asian people, cathartic-outrage too, racist-factoids is for jokes related to racism and similar, doomer-playlist is to post music, therapy-60-bucks-an-hour is for memes and big-5-neuroticism was to make fun out of diobono, you see things have an use and are quote often used, some less than others, the biggest source of chaos on it is the vast amount of alt accounts and random friends of Based that join it for no reason at all, I also really like how Galaxy's server is structured, I do believe rules are important, and I do think things could be organized, if you take a look I do use a decent way of writing in my comments, when I finish talking about a topic or a set of topics I go to a new line and end with the dot and other things, while someone like jt doesn't and I find that annoying, actually there are a few things by you I find annoying and you know that, I think it was LadyX or Jacobus that pointed out you weren't using capitalization for names and that annoys me, or how tman writes like crap, hell I think if we go by organization as by how things are said I am even more criterious than you, going back to the academical level of competence topic, to a certain extent I consider it here, I do not bother correcting jt's or tman's mistakes because I think that they're dumb, while I do bother arguing with you or Teru or other people who have more neurons than chromosomes.

On the message style, size should not be considered, take someone like Teru, he does use short messages to pass his general message, while it is still different from you and me, he does it in a short way and I believe he is ENTP (clear use of Ne as in he is creative, makes fun out of people, is able to do that while arguing which indicates Ti because he doesn't care about who says a thing, but in his case it is not always about adding content to the conversation but instead also making it more interesting, we also do that but he of course does it way more, you being the least and someone like tman also constantly does that but still less than Teru, but his messages are still short), the thing with my comments is that I want to put as much content as I can in them to make sure there will be no doubts, I believe that making a single comment explaining and points I can see and developing them well is better than letting many doubts go on, someone who actually doesn't care about that and writes a lot would be tman, he doesn't develop on things.

And now here is a thing, relationships in socionics aren't from an aware position yet from a logical one, in my head I know how relationships work as by socionics but in real life I am actually extremely terrible with that, being a 5 it goes towards isolation, the biggest reason I learned that is to see how I could apply that, a good example of me being terrible with Fe is being unable to realize I was offending Jaden who is a person that joined Galaxy's server and later Saki's and left because he considered me as being offensive but I truly didn't realize I was, I was just questioning him, that is explained by socionics because he was IEE and I am LII, supervisor relationship which has one's base function constantly triggering the others polr, you can see that happening when I talk to cena or Based, or to a certain extent you and Teru (I believe Teru is ILE and I will make a big comment explaining why in a close future), but then I wasn't able to see that because he had himself as IEI (I started questioning it quickly and that only helped towards making him annoyed) but truly didn't realize I could be being offensive, Teru originally believed I was ILE because I insult people without realizing too, I actually believe that the relationship part of socionics is the best because it can be used to help me solve said problems I have in my life, it explains quite well why I don't have a good relationship with my parents (SEE and IEE) truly not being able to understand why before or why my mom acted the way she did, it is not really feelings, it can also be logical, a Ti polr won't be logical many times as in how they act with people, SEEs are fucking cancerous, I don't care about people's feelings as in what they feel towards what I type them but what they feel towards others can indicate compatibility which makes things just make more and more sense, and I do agree that INTP is much better than ISTP for me.

But there are other things which aren't shown well online but in real life they do more, I am a quite effective person in what I do, and I can be quite a workaholic which is not a very INTP by functions trait (fits Te ignoring quite well too), I am also extremely future oriented but this is hard to see online and it is also related to socionics Ni which is the demosntrative which does not show that well, I am going to study in probably the best brazilian university for computer science (it is debatable) at 17 which is interesting (most people that get on it have to study a few years after high school, also may I mention I just wouldn't get into it earlier because of stupid arbitrary age limits for joining universities set by the brazilian government) and that also indicates that I care about academical competence but not for online arguments (it can also be quite a enneagram 3 thing which I clearly have in my tritype), I also relate a lot to the insight aspect of most definitions of cognitive functions Ni (I want to know what specific ones you use), and I clearly don't live in the moment but not like one who is Se blind yet one who is Se inferior (check the DOTA comments, that game is very cognitive function Se-ish), I also relate much more to Fi than Fe but that is a little bit harder to show and still quite terrible, as kawaii says, I am emotionally retarded, the ones who talk to me the most, these being Teru, Taco, kawaii, all agree with Fe blind (unsure about kawaii since I did not ask him but considering what he says about me it fits) because the closer you get to me the more that is visible, all that has been said until now fits my function tests results, which goes like Te = Ti > Ni > Ne > Si > Fi > Se > Fe and I asked some people to order that (kawaii said the same order for me), and I don't believe I have secondary Ne because I am not creative in that way more in the insight way which comes out of nowhere but quite developed, which is why I believe it is hard to type me by cognitive functions, but as one who uses mostly definitions by Beebe (Taco also does), the way he explains Se inferior/anima, Ti critic/witch, Si demon and Fe trickster fits so well with me I believe INTJ is the way to go, but I am unsure if you even know about his definitions, which is the problem with having only one function vote, maybe there could be one for IDRlabs, another for Jung as by personality types related, another for Beebe, one for whatever tman uses, etc.

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The way he wrote it is to say that in our discussion you made fg have more of a clue about what to type me as.

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fg, did you mean psch?

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Tman made give me more clue about a cognitive function typing despite giving a wrong results at the end. you are Ti>Te in mbti you seem to dislike the use of academical level of competencies and always require internal logic arguments .in our discussions you did not seem to care about control or any kind of regulations (CF Te related characteristics) when it came to politics or even concerning the chat or the site (you even tend to have a positive view or at least neutral about some chat that are a total mess). In our communication style we are very different (me CF's Te valuer and you CF's Ti valuer). my comments are shorter and want to go at the point while your approach is a little bit more labyrinthic. you seem to not be totally mbti cf Fe blind unlike me. that's why the relation between Marx, Stirner and hengels was a valiable argument for typing Stirner while i tend to dislike this relationship parts of socionics and skip it in most of my work, i don't think the feeling of someone for anyone had to count in a typing, it only tend to base myself on their core belief and general attitude unlike you. your inferior cf Fe tendencies can be added as possible even if we have less visible examples. you seem to have Ne over Se (too abstract and not enough present oriented for an ISTP). so INTP>ISTP. my vote for you is CF INTP for now.

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Teru, I do explain things after, I explained the monopoly thing to the weird dude in Based's server, about I creating a server I actually like planning things before going to action (sometimes I don't but I mean if I want to I can), I am unsure if there is anything else I have to explain, also I don't have time because I'm either doing important stuff or playing DOTA and it has all been going pretty well, yesterday was nice.

Tman it does not fit Ne blind because hacking is within a Ti framework you don't know, you need to find out about it, which is Ne because it is all about possibilities, mostly the starting point, also you ignore many things, how the fuck am I a Se user? you're ignoring all the questions I make such as what are your sources? what do you use? what definitions exactly? also how does EXTP fit? ESTP is a Se dom with pretty good use of Fe I mean they're really not socially awkward at all and how the fuck does ENTP who fucking leads with Ne fit if I am Ne blind? also how doesn't INTJ fit while Fe blindness makes a lot of sense? I mean I don't believe you're going to change your opinion anymore but may I ask, how am I Ne blind by your magical function magic and somehow LII by socionics which has creative Ne while both definitions are basically the same? inb4 u vote LSI

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Yeah, your not an EXTP type, but you sitll more likly to be that then INTJ.

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No, hacking fits my example of Ne blind, becuse it's still within a Ti framework.

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"I'll do it later dude" "yeah sure. but later" "I don't have time. I'm playing Dota"

ILI > LII tbh.

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thats just best guess for ennea/iv because i dont talk to you but youre like a cute kind of weird spastic phsc i have faith that you wont actually die a virgin 

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Well in the scientific community Newton did exactly the same as I am doing here, but he was more hardcore with it, I also don't care about social hierarchy just see me talking with Based and I'm also pretty low on it too, you're free to question me just don't say shit about me, it is very different, I get annoyed because you don't understand what I'm saying and keep saying I use fallacies I didn't use (I didn't shift the goalposts!), I am not doing it for emotional reasons? it is more like you're being dumb and talking shit about me which includes wrong information with a bad use of logic too? that annoys me, I don't care about being insulted, just check Teru's or Based's server and see, I truly don't, you keep assuming things about me, that is the biggest problem, that I am emotional over you talking shit about me, that I think you can't be ILI because you're dumb, that is wrong, a wrong view of me and my beliefs, also INTJs get triggered, I mean fg gets angry, actually ISTPs get less triggered than INTJs to be honest, take a look at an actual func. magic ISTP, that being Taco, he gets annoyed but not angry, not as much as me or even fg sometimes (like with jt saying shit in his poll or LadyX voting him ISFJ).

I listed examples of me using Ne in a few comments ago, the one I mention hacking, you're just ignoring that, I also lack any form of Fe but let's ignore that, Fi fits much better, I mean see Fi users, mike is a good example for that, I am INTJ and I am Fe blind and not Ne or Se blind, Ti framework can be explained by the LII INTJ combination, also ESTP is ridiculous but I want you to vote me ESTP so it looks like you're extremely dumb and then I can joke about that with an actual ESTP (someone like Based), also ESTP LII is an amazing combination.

I did give examples about me not being Ne blind, I am seeing the bigger picture and it does not fit with what you say, I don't do that in a limited way, when do I do that other than here? I want you to show examples because that is how typology works, if we stop following that I can just say that you're any type based on a small amount of evidence and THAT DOESN'T FIT THE BIGGER PICTURE, you're literally ignoring me talking about how I use Ne, Teru mentions my "Ne rambling" as a thing that indicates INTP over INTJ, I am not ignoring them, it is just that there is nothing that indicates that, that 98% is extremely arbitrary and out of your ass, but I don't care about your opinion anyway, you're literally ignoring Se as it tends to be, your concept of Fe makes no sense and I am clearly not Ne blind, but there is a reason enlighted people call that shit function magic, because your definitions are so different from everyones else, what sources do you use? twisted Beebe ala CS Joseph? or what? IDRLabs for sure not, which is why Diobono votes INTP, Taco and I use Beebe and INTJ fits extremely well, Teru I am unsure, well I have no problem with flat earthers or antivaxxers so why would I have a problem with you saying I am ISTP? you're the one ignoring the bigger picture and only taking examples from this "debate", you literally ignore everything else, hypocritical but that's not new tbh.

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Acutaly I take it back. This entire converstation shows Ne blind. You're constatly demanding I show concrete examples (Se-Si) while failing to see the bigger picture of my arugments. You're able to see the bigger pictures, but only in very limted ways. You can consider posibliltlies, but only from within a Ti framework of how you view the world. You constaitly demand concrete examples, and I give them to you, and you ignor them becuse they don't fit you're ideas what what spsificly you wnated. I'm now 98% sure your ISTP in IDR.

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Lack of Ne was a bad point. I've said this like 4 time now. It was a bad arugment. It's irelevent to the point I am now making. Yes, INTJs can care about there image. But your reasons for doing so, strick me as pitrulalrly Fe. You seem to belive that someone on the botom of the social hierarchy has dared to question you, and are therefor upset by the fact somone you looked down on as lesser has begun to qestion your status, lead to deep conceren as to  how others would see you. You also seem trigered by me questioing you logical framework without what you veiw as sufcent reason, in other words, questioing your Ti framework. Fi arsts may care about there Fe image. INTJ's don't tend to do it for emtional reasons thought, and they sure don't tend to get triggered. I'm certin, your either INTP or ISTP. You have a clear Ti framework from which you view the world, plus your Fe outbursts. You constaitly demand conctre examples, which could be Si, but the fact you don't list any yourself make's me think Se. You're not an INTJ that's for sure, you're a really clear Ti-Fe user. The only other type I would consider considering is INFJ. But you seem more like a lower Fe user. ESTP could also be a posbilty, but they don't tend ot have as strong Ti frameworks at all.

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When did I shift the goalpost? IT'S THE SAME THING, JUST EXPLAIN NE BLINDNESS, it's multiple ways of saying the same thing, taking my imagine seriously doesn't mean I am Fe, Isaac Newton cared a lot about his image later on his life and he was a quite clear INTJ, I believe that also happened with Tesla who is another clear INTJ, that is called 3/so, I wasn't hurt with what you said, actually it is many things, first of all you're saying I am not what I am, second is the fact I believe you're wrong, third is the fact you triggered me by saying I am something I am not, yes I do get triggered by the image thing but I am also triggered by your lack of logic, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF TIMES I POSTED TYPINGS I CONSIDER WRONG MADE BY YOU, MILLIONS OF TIMES I TOLD TACO TO FIX HIS TYPINGS, another example which is public is me questioning ResoluteSoul voting bach as a tritype 4, what does that have to do with my image? it is because it is wrong, a 1/5 thing, not a 3 one, in this case it all goes together, IT ADDS TO IT, it is not the core, and even then how is that Fe and not Fi? many Fi artists care a lot about their image and what others think, 3w4/4w3s are very often Fi users, YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY EXPLAIN NE BLIND, YOU DIDN'T SHOW ME BEING NE BLIND, THAT IS THE THING, I am not going back to that for no reason, it is because you did not fucking explain it, now we have this retard ResoluteSoul not only making so wrong information about me (I am not ISTP) being maybe more likely to be considered as true but also agreeing with your lack of information and knowledge and arguments and neurons, probably to make me angry because he is a retard who takes things personally instead of explaining them, such as Bach being a 4, ALSO CASUAL REMINDER TACO FIX YOUR VOTE FOR NEWTON I TOLD YOU LIKE 4 TIMES ALREADY, I also never said I don't give a shit about how people see me I just care more about being right than that, 5>3.

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Your shifting the goal post. It's gone form "tell me why you think I'm Ne blind." I do. "Okay but explain this then!" I alrready told you why you have Fe. You're a person, who takes his image VERY serouly. You defently have a main 3 fix. You were really hurt when I impled that this was going to make you not takin serously. You said were upset by stupidty. But I think that's bullshit. I think you really care what others think of you. An Fe blind person is somone who sometimes fails to notice someones feelings, or fails to take them into acout. Your someone who PERTENDS he dosn't how give shit how other people see him. You PRETEND you don't care. But you do. The other's, like Teru and FG have known you longer, so mabye they can give examples. I'm operating of incomplet information, so I'm waiting for clear signs of Ne use to rear it'self. It hasn't yet. Ni has. I mean you yourself voted INTJ in IDR. So Ni makes sense, although I don't think you have it in a dominte postion. You can take a single idea, and run with it, and then another and then another. But I've notice you tend to harp on those singular ideas pretty hard in or conversations. Constatly going back to Ne blind for one, even after I explained it.

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Fg, all I want is tman to explain to me how I am Ne blind, thats all, I actually probably am the user with most function magic votes, me saying function magic is because I am unsure about what specific source tman is using, IDRlabs, Beebe, etc, he doesn't specify that, it is not me trying to discredit the system, it is because I am not sure about what specific system.

Tman, the first impressions matter a lot, Ni and Te are very common in programming but hacking is more Ne and Ti, but now you fall into a big problem:

>I don't have proof you're Ne blind

>I don't ahve proof you're not Ne blind

First of all, I made a few arguments about how I am not Ne blind in older comments, but me possibly not being Ne blind just makes ISTP more ridiculous, I believe Fe blindness makes much more sense, you're now ignoring two functions instead of one, Se and Ne, thats 25% of the system.

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I didn't say no one respected you. I said they were gunna lose respect for you if this is how you behave. Most people's respect isn't based on how well you can type. I honstly would be lieing if I said this hadn't affected how I veiw you. I'd be willing to forgive that. I can totaly see an Ne user doing codeing, but I can also totaly see an Ni user doing it an enjoying it. I don't have a clear sign your Ne blind. I said that was a mistake (as I said before.) I see no clear sings you arn't though. I'm going to bed, it's realy late where I'm at, will talk more in the morning. 

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hey, hey calm down i have something to say to both of you.

Tman: i won't change my mind about Phsc's competency because of a fight he have with you.I can see where you ISTP vote (ti dom+fe inferior could work for him) come from but i disagree with your argumental basis, your focus on loop, grip and other bullshit theory that made me abandon the cognitive function system for socionics, you focus too much on a Ti-Ni perspective for him that you even considered INFJ above INTJ for him which is very umprobable as an order of possibility for him. i think you should instead if he show Ne over Se. and he is obviously Ne over Se (too much focus on possibilities for a Ne blind). so if he is IXTP, he is INTP. you tend too much too just heterodoxical path that rarely came from nowhere but i think you use the wrong patterns.

Phsc: i think you are too disdaignous about the cognitive function system. of course it have a ton of bullshit but let's face it all typology system have this kind of problem (socionics got most of the reinin dichotomy and gulenko's cognitive style as example), enneagram have a big unexplained part about the wing correlation with type etc... calling it "function magic" like most sheep in here is kind of low for someone as competent as you.

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I generally like phsc's typology sense.

I voted a "1" due to the periodic expressions of anger, along with a perfectionistic outlook on spelling and other things - an alternative might be a "5" going to counterphobic mode.

Many times I've seen a fun person just enjoying the absurdity of some of the entries and making key contributions.

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Hacking is not about programming, it is about thinking "what if" as in what would break the code, it does use Ti because you do try to understand the logical system, but you try to think of ways of breaking it, but you also need to find it out most of the time, also that is not the only thing you did, you're unable to fucking present your arguments, you have MANY, MANY WRONG TYPINGS, spelling errors can be ignored but I'm talking about the fact you said people don't take me seriously and that greatly affects it as in making you look ridiculous, also sometimes it is hard to understand, but yes I care about content and not the way it is presented, it isn't about me being better than you, it is because you literally said people didn't take me seriously, it was a reply, and even then there is no logic, since you don't show examples of me being Ne blind, the example you used isn't directly being Ne blind and I explained it to you, it is more of a kafkatrap in the way you're using it.

It does not matter, it is extremely clear I value truth over anything else, I don't see how I don't care about truth, all I am doing this over is because you have a wrong vote and I want you to explain Be blindness but you don't so I think you're being retarded and that annoys me, I am the one who values truth over anything else, you're the one who doesn't argue and keeps on talking about me not giving value to truth while I clearly do, I will quote the user Based which might start using saki now but the last time someone used the term pwnage Michael Jackson was still alive, I clearly care but you ignore it, I wouldn't question your typings if I did not care for fucks sake, I truly could easily change my mind if you explained how I am Ne blind but you did not and that annoys me, also the fact that the vote is wrong too, also unsure if you realized but I am almost never offended by anything, I truly believe words cannot hurt, Teru and Based constantly insult me and I don't really care, if you care about truth you'd ignore all of that.

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Basicly, I'm sorry; I lashed out at you, even if you were wrong to insult me first, that doesn't give me the right to insult you.

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I rember having an example, but I can't find it. I'll try and post it next time. I still stand by my destion, becuse you still seem have a pretty strong, Ni, but I think your a lower Fe user. I don't think you'r Ni is doment. You realy do seem like a Ti dom (your disciption of Ne sounds more like Ti, computer programing is about inetnral logic, so is Ti. There's nothing keeping Ne users from it, but I would asocatie it with Ne. Ti is more oriented on solving logical problems.)  I could see INTP with an exeptionly strong Ti infulince. Honstly, the whole Ne thing is more just me laching onto a single data point and extrating to much form it. That's what I meant by Ti-Si loop. I take point of informatoion, grab onto it, and fail to take into acount all the other little data point, extraplating way to much form it. In this case, I don't even rember the data point. I think that what makes me such a bad typist.

If I rember correctly I called you all those thing after you said I was the stupidest person you had ever seen, so you fired the first shot. All I did was type you baddly.

If all you care about are the ideas, then spelling errorers can be ingored, can't they? You understood what I meant. So it's almost like this wasn't about logic at all. It's almost like it was about proving you were better then me, becuse you looked down on me.It's almost like this entire converstation was a just an attempt to one up me. Like they don't care about truth, but about ponage.

Working in good faith matters, becuse otherwise, your wasting your time on someone who dosn't vaule truth. But your most recent post has shown me that's may not be true. You may just be an honset guy whose having a bad day. You seem to really want to know.

I meant what I said about that desire for "inelcutal pownge." I also meant what I said about that kind of thinking being unhelpfull and dumb.I told myself that what I wanted was to not waste my time on a discution with someone who didn't care. But mabye there's a part of me that just didn't want to admit that I couldn't rember why I thought you were Ne blind. I need to be I'm okay having been wrong, so long as it helps me towrds being right.

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"pocuation" what the fuck does this mean? ponctuation? did you ever look at your own grammar tman? jesus christ, and then I get frustrated when I don't mention all of them when you go back and try to do what I asked? bad ponctuation = Ni blind? lmao

I am not saying everything should be about the arguments, I'm talking about how you didn't say shit to explain me being Ne blind, I was talking about how everyone hates you because you LITERALLY SAID I WAS RIDICULOUS AND IMMATURE AND THAT PEOPLE DON'T TAKE ME SERIOUSLY, it is like "haha you're weak" and then the dude shows that compared to you he's way stronger, I just want you to explain how I am Ne blind and not talk about fg using Ni or things that aren't really Ne blind yet someone angry at one who doesn't argue, I don't care about the reason you left but the thing is is that you still left, and you talk about how you could just not reply to me at all which is indirectly saying "I say shit and don't support it with arguments", being angry doesn't make things different but you keep putting focus on that, "I left because you were angry" which changes nothing, angry or not I'm pretty good with logic, and I wasn't angry I was baffled by stupidity, acting in good faith means nothing, what you're doing is literally an ad hominem to justify not explaining your argument, a tldr of it is:

1 - you're Ne blind

2 - I am not going to explain it because you are not worth of my time

See? you don't support 1 at all, you keep talking about 2, and it is literally an ad hominem, YOU BY MY SUBJECTIVE CONCEPT OF WORTH EXPLAINING TO ISN'T WORTH EXPLAINING WHY I AM RIGHT TO SO I AM NOT GOING TO EXPLAIN, you don't have an argument other than attacking me by saying I'm not worth your time, but okay tman, you're retarded anyway, your logic would be quickly debunked by me but since you have no argument, your ISTP vote is simply ridiculous, good thing other people made good votes in my poll, and you have ridiculous votes in other polls too, at least I was able to achieve you're an INFP and not an INTP out of this.

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 You have a wall of text  in which you make serveral point with no pucation, and then get frustrated when I didn't mention all of them when I go back and try and do what you asked. You talk about how everthing should just be about the argments, and then you run into tyrades of how everyone hates me. You swich form "fuck you retard" to "stop making adhomin attacks" to "You're an idot and stop making ad homine attacks." The reason why I left wasn't becuse I was running away. I could just not respond to you at all. I wanted to give you some time to cool down so you didn't emmbarce yourself. . And then against my better jugment, I came back. You want me to try and explain myself to you? I have. I would be more then happy to try and do it better, if I had the imperstion you were acting in good faith. But you havn't given me that imprestion. You're not worth my effort or my time. I've given far more of it to you then you deserive.

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Tman you're so stupid you don't even know how an ad hominem can be used in combination with other fallacies, I can refute your point and then offend you, you don't have an argument other than saying "Ne blind" and you don't even bother explaining that because it does not seem obvious to me and I did show examples of me using "Ne", you don't have a point and all you did is call me immature, and even then if I am using that fallacy you're still using it so you're still wrong, nice tu quoque even then, you were running from the debate using an ad hominem, you were "you're angry/immature thus I won't reply for some time" which is running from it, now not anymore, there's a fancier name for an ad hominem to then run away from debate but I forgot it.

Running from it I can say you have no arguments, you literally just said "Ne blind" and did not bother explaining it other than the example of me angry at you because you were not explaining it and even then that isn't directly Ne blind, it is also clear that I am Fe blind and not Ne blind lmao, it is clearly not Ne and even then it is not the problem everyone has one, now you're just acting like you're right (even tho you didn't actually show any examples of Ne blindness in me AND ALSO IGNORED WHAT I MENTIONED RELATED TO IT).

You're so ridiculous with your "kafkatrapping" in this, you believe I am ISTP, then I act and then you try to view it as an ISTP would view it, instead of actually showing that I am Ne blind:

"It's possible you didn't know that, and that I was just saying "You're an ISTP becuse you suck.""

I am not viewing it as that, that is extremely obvious, but the thing is THAT I AM NOT ISTP, Taco is ISTP, he fits Ne blind perfectly, talking to him about him being you he was thinking it was an absolute truth, not considering that it is just a possibility, actual Ne blind person, I am not, again you didn't show any examples of Ne blindness and all you did was "explain" things as they would be if I were ISTP and I clearly am not, ridiculous, my arguments aren't insults, you don't have an argument other than your dogmatic Ne blind "thinking".

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To be clear, my intent with the bellow isn't to misrepresent PSCH, but to give a general impression of the conversation. If you wanna know what's going on, start form my first  comment on this page and start scrolling up. It's important to note the protestation of the insults, and how my behavior changed as PSCH continued to hurl insults at me. Pay attention to who started the insults. If you don't care, don't bother with it. You might get a laugh though.

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Okay, so I'm back. First off, I suspecting you thinking I'm taco isn't something any claim I can make will disprove, so that's all I'm gunna say about it. Lets look at some qoutes from PSCH,

"I'm not sure if you realized but everyone in this website thinks you're retarded..."

"that you're extremely stupid, you're wasting your time spending a single second in this website unsure if you realized that already, "benefit of the doubt", lmao, thing is tman, for me to refute a thing you need to have a thing."

"Just that you're extremely stupid, you're wasting your time spending a single second in this website unsure if you realized that already, "benefit of the doubt", lmao, thing is tman, for me to refute a thing you need to have a thing ."

"I am not doing hysterical screaming, I am just quesitoning you being a retard... you also are being hypocritical because you also did virtual screaming WHEN TYPING LIKE THIS, which indicates you could be Taco which is a valid theory not many people join this community, and Taco likes trolling"

Latter in the argmunt I said this: "Okay, your starting to sound as incoherent as I normally do, but angerer. I'm glad senpai FG likes your work, but that was before today's outburst. I'm not sure if he will respond as positively to your recent comments.I don't wanna speak for him, but he doesn't strike me as a guy who responds well to hysterical screaming. I'm not saying your not a decent typest, or that your dumb. I'm saying your behaving inmaturly. 4w5 makes sense for me, as I've already said, based on how I act on this cite. I use the term "asburgers" when I meant "autistic", which you had mentioned before you might be. It's not a dirty word man. I can see why you would think I was using it as an insult, and for that I really do owe you an apology. I'm gonna give you an hour or two to calm down. Don't expect any responses till then."

And your respond with.

"I am not behaving in a imature way, first of all maturity is not even objective, you're just running from the arguments using a crappy ad hominem about me not being mature because you don't have arguments, literally a sophist."

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Yes. Clearly, I am the one making ad hominin attacks.

None of these comments count as ad homin falcies, becuse I never said "you were rude, therefor you wrong about MBTI," and you never said "Your an idiot, therefor your wrong about MBTI." Insults are not in and of themselves adhomin attacks. An adhomin attack is attack somone personily in odder to despuite there argument.

I am not requiered to have converstations with people who constaly call me a retard. Even if I do end up leaving, you wouldn't be able to claim it was becuse I didn't have any argemnts, becuse it could just as easly be that I was tiered of being insulted. Forchenetly I'm more board then I am teired of being insulsted.

Having a "blind" funtion isn't a bad thing, evey type has one in most theores I've (often by difrent names.) Think of it less as "Blind" like Steve Wonder, and more like a blind spot, something that can trip you up, or that you can fail to take into consideration. It's possible you didn't know that, and that I was just saying "You're an ISTP becuse you suck."

These qoutes prove nothing. Phsc could just as easaily take everthing I've said out of context in order to prove what a jerk I am. If you wanna know what happened, look back at the qoutes yourself.

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TACOMAN = tman.  DUN DUN DUN.  You got me lolololololololololol.  Jk.

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I literally did that you dumbass, I told you to read all of it, I don't have evidence BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY, it is a possibility, I didn't say it is absolute truth, also I don't care about talking to you about it because you can just lie about it! but I cannot consider that possibility because according to the genius tman is, I am "Ne blind".

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Lmao @ the notion of me being tman.  Hey phsc, you present interesting points as to why and how I could be tman, but you don't have any actual, concrete and tangible evidence as to why I am.  Instead of going behind my back and baselessly insinuating that I am tman without any actual evidence you could simply man up and talk to me one-on-one about why you think I am in direct messages.  It's not hard to do at all.

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why did you decide to make a comment now and here?

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weed is for cumbrains

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anybody in this thread smoke weed

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What am I saying that is incoherent? please indicate that, you don't have proof for what you say, you say I am Ne blind, you didn't show an example, you say that I am incoherent, you didn't say where I am being incoherent so I can not be, I am not doing hysterical screaming, I am just quesitoning you being a retard, also it's the internet, "virtual screaming", ridiculous, you also are being hypocritical because you also did virtual screaming WHEN TYPING LIKE THIS, which indicates you could be Taco which is a valid theory not many people join this community, and Taco likes trolling, I am not behaving in a imature way, first of all maturity is not even objective, you're just running from the arguments using a crappy ad hominem about me not being mature because you don't have arguments, literally a sophist, I know what asburgers means but there is no reason for you to use that instead of autist unless you had contact with cena, kawaii, Teru's server (which your old account left but it implies contact with kawaii and cena) and/or Sakinorva server which I do not believe you are in, Taco fits all of these too but you're ignoring that, interesting, I also did not consider it a insult I literally called me autistic many times in this website, I also replied seriously to Jacobus a long time ago when he asked if I had something in the autism spectrum, I am not offended or even angry I'm just baffled by stupidity and the lack of arguments you have, you're like bloomer running from them, you're literally just running from the discussion, you're ridiculous tman, you're the one who needs maturity here, not me, also casual reminder that being angry or immature doesn't make someone wrong and doesn't make their arguments less strong.

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anyways stream epiphany!

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Okay, your starting to sound as incoherent as I normally do, but angerer. I'm glad senpai FG likes your work, but that was before today's outburst. I'm not sure if he will respond as positively to your recent comments.I don't wanna speak for him, but he doesn't strike me as a guy who responds well to hysterical screaming. I'm not saying your not a decent typest, or that your dumb. I'm saying your behaving inmaturly. 4w5 makes sense for me, as I've already said, based on how I act on this cite. I use the term "asburgers" when I meant "autistic", which you had mentioned before you might be. It's not a dirty word man. I can see why you would think I was using it as an insult, and for that I really do owe you an apology. I'm gonna give you an hour or two to calm down. Don't expect any responses till then.

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The simple fact I am considering I think kawaii's view on you to be true and then developing it considering the possibilities for who you might be and thus Taco being likely shows that I am not Ne blind and also can of course consider the possibility that I am wrong in that because this is a GUESS and not an absolute truth.

Also I forgot to say that nobody takes you seriously, you're a joke in this website, you're the worst typist by far, Taco, Teru, fg, kawaii, even GalaxyStrider make fun out of you, you also spell like crap most of the time which also made Diobono make fun out of you and makes everybody not take you seriously.

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First may I mention you're someone trolling, the term "asburguers" indicates you're probably someone else since kawaii started using it to refer to me, cena went with it too, if I had to guess I would say you're Taco trolling, mostlt BECAUSE you do THIS when WRITING THINGS DOWN, and TACO also DOES THAT, I think it was kawaii who said you're an alt because of how dumb you are.

No it doesn't sound like I have "blind Ne" because I don't have blind Ne, I am not terrible at that, you're stupid that's the thing, I literally say THERE IS A POSSIBILITY YOU'RE NOT ENTIRELY WRONG ALSO SAID THAT IN YOUR PROFILE BUT YOU DON'T ARGUE, you don't explain your thinking.

INFJ could work if you believe more advanced function magic stuff such as "loops" because Ni Ti fits extremely well, blind Te yes that does make sense, by the way you're using Beebe definitions most likely which goes with what Taco uses too, interesting!

I didn't say Se has to do with social skills, you're fucking stupid, people tend to correlate it to impulsivity, living in the moment, I don't do that, physical awareness is also a joke to me.

Tman, I am taken seriously, I'm pretty sure most people here consider me as a good typist, fg constantly likes my comments so I know at least someone takes me seriously, the fact NiTech asked me to explain my SLI vote could also indicate that, Taco also considers me a good typist but since there is a possibility you are him you know that, also I am not hard headed it's just that you're extremely stupid, you're wasting your time spending a single second in this website unsure if you realized that already, "benefit of the doubt", lmao, thing is tman, for me to refute a thing you need to have a thing, saying I am ISTP because I have Ti and you believe I don't have Ne without explaining how I don't have Ne does nothing, you literally just said I don't consider possibilites while I do it's just that when I think of Elon Musk as ESFP it's ridiculous, nothing fits, you don't write in detail because you cannot, because you are completely stupid, also please put me down want to see you do it, genius.

A few examples of Ne by me was well, hacking is very Ne, it's about thinking about possibilities and finding flaws in the system, me considering you as 4w5 instead of 5w4, ResoluteSoul, many and many votes made by me, you also didn't give examples of Ne blind, I'm called you retarded because you aren't giving examples, the example is me annoyed because you don't give examples of me being Ne blind, I also mentioned that in a comment I made in your poll because of the two possibilities for your type, either a retarded Ti user or someone who makes shit out of oblivion with bias and other shit.

I am saying you are wrong because you are not explaining things not because I think it is impossible for you to be right and cannot think about said things being possibly true, it is because I DID CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY AND IT STILL MAKES NO SENSE, and now all you did is define Ne, then say I'm bad at it, explain how fg argues using Ni and I also use Ni in my arguments because I am similar to fg in that, then you talk about blind Ni which also has nothing to do with it, I am not an ISTP of any form in any system, I really am the opposite of "whats the point of arguing", also even then I love how you contradict yourself because LII has creative Ne in socionics which isn't far from function magic Ne you described, what a genius.

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my page is a work of art wym

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"How dumb are you? How am I blind Ne?... unsure if you realized but everyone in this website thinks you're retarded, maybe you might be right about all of your stupid votes and maybe they aren't stupid but you don't explain them, not even fucking jt who literally RANDOMIZES TYPES FOR PEOPLE is this bad with typology, really, congratulations, you might be the dumbest person I've ever fucking seen.?"

Gee bad at Fe? Never would have geused, your such a charming fellow :P. This kind of outbust is the kinda shit I'm talking about (look at Teru's page for more examples of it.) This is what happens when you get a frustrated Fe infierorer. For an example of this in my self, look at Jean Pual Sartes page, and you'll see me doing something simliler. This kind of outburst is not typical of Fe blind. It is of Fe infeiror.

The fact you react this way shows  blind Ne. I know that sounds like I'm saying I'm gonna say you have blind Ne no matter what, but bare with me. Ne is the ability to see multiple possibility in the abstract, understanding new ideas in the moment. PHSC, your utterly terrible at that. FG for example (INTJ) tends to argue with me mostly using Ni, but tends to acknowledge there could be at least some possibility I'm not entirely wrong, even when I really am kinda full of shit. You can kinda tell internally he has no idea what I'm on about, (once again, most of the time it's because I have incomplete information) but his response is to simply say he disagrees, and either leave it at that, or polity tell me why he thinks I'm wrong.  Blind Ni means that you don't consider there to be value in considering purely abstract musings of other people, especially when it contradicts your Ti-Ni. In the other ISTP I know, this comes out very differently, more of a "whats the point of arguing" kind way, because he doesn't think he'll change his mind, and kinda assumes others are the same way, but I think the core cause is the same. 

INFJ is a terrible typing I'll give you that. I'm pretty sure you have at least some of the INFJ functions. INFJ doesn't really work though, you're pretty clearly a low Fe user, probably as a fourth function. Unless you just have a REALY underdeveoped 2nd function, which asburgers might impair, but you DEFENTLY don't have blind Te.

Why do you assume Se has anything to do with social skills? I chose to ignore Se because, quite frankly, I'm not sure what I would be looking for. Se is my blind function, so I have a very abstract, skeletal framework understanding of what it is and dose, so I'm not sure how easily I could find it in other people. Hence why I left it to you to deiced.

If you want to be taken seriously and given peoples time and energy, I suggest you stop acting like a petulant child. I really hope your not just another asshole on the internet, and that your not this hard headed in real life, because otherwise, I just wasted a lot of my time. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, because, beneath your temper tantrums, you have points worth responding to. I think your right in that I need to form more detailed arguments, but If you can't disagree with me in the future without resorting to hysterical hissy fits and petty insults, I won't wast my time. I'll respond, but I see no reason to  write in any kind of detail.

There's a part of me that wants to use this in an attempt to put you down, because I'm pretty annoyed right now. But I don't think that part of me is very helpful, and you don't really desire that after being kinda a jerk on the internet once, so I'm hoping I'm this doesn't come of as an intellectual dick meseruing contest. Debate shouldn't be about trying to get "ponege."  

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ignore phsc hes just a child

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tman I'm not talking about IDR, I'm talking about MBTI as by letters, I don't show any F behaviour at all, I do understand the INTP IDR votes, and INFJ is not that ridiculous if you believe in things such as "loops", you can also ask stuff about my behaviour in real life and it's not like I would lie, but actually I suck at Fe, all the tests I score extremely low for Fe, and there's even a chance I have aspergers.

Also how the fuck am I fucking ISTP? how dumb are you? how am I blind Ne? literally you say that I am not blind Fe which is extremely obvious Jacobus even mentioned that I could have aspergers and I am socially awkward as fuck but then you fucking say I am a Se user? what related to the current moment do I have? you're literally ignoring a function, and if you're going to ignore it why not even INFJ as you mentioned?

You fucking say X and don't explain X, "oh I don't see blind Fe" WHY DON'T YOU SEE BLIND FE, "oh I see you're Ne blind" WHY AM I NE BLIND? unsure if you realized but everyone in this website thinks you're retarded, maybe you might be right about all of your stupid votes and maybe they aren't stupid but you don't explain them, not even fucking jt who literally RANDOMIZES TYPES FOR PEOPLE is this bad with typology, really, congratulations, you might be the dumbest person I've ever fucking seen.

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Then again, people can sometimes strugle with there Second fuction (I sometimes get caught in a Ti-Si loop) so it's not so much about ability or how much you use it, so much as how well you use it when your funtioning well.The fact your not "fully N" seems to be a clue. That's a pretty distinctly ISXP/ENXJ trait. INXPs/ESXJs tend to have more of a clear preference for there type.

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I take it back, your most likly don't have Fe second, and honstly show some sings of Ne blind, so I'm gunna go with ISTP (IDR.) Strong Ti-Ni. I don't know how you would use Se (if at all) so that's gunna be a major blind spot, so feel free to enlighen me if your terable at it.

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I like to not fully comit, just in case, when i have limited info about a person. It's not so much saying your only partly an introvert, or partly a thinker, so much as it is the percentige of certinety I have about your type. That's the way I use it, and becuse of how this webcite is set up, people with more infromation get more influnce then me. I could honstly see you as INFJ in terms fuctions but that's not supper relvent. I still say the most likly a Ti dom in terms of functions (IDR), but I'm not so sure, INTJ is also a posbility. The only problem there is I don't think you have Blind Fe.

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tman please indicate any F behaviour related to me

also I'm probably not a full N too but since being N is like "better" you can keep that I guess

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hey 0.25I/-i voters fun fact I spent 2 weeks without leaving my house haha what an extrovert

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since many function magic votes have been made im just going to leave this here

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wtf it appears before when i actually sent them wtf

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why the fuck can't i edit my other comment

also why doesn't it appear on the front page wtf

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aiming to click the like button is my new favorite game

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proof

nigga cat

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SLE-Se subtype: "Appearance

The sensory subtype is witty and impulsive. While seemingly concealing within them latent threats they appear unappeasable. However, they are sharp, aggressive and persevering people. Notably resourceful, they are able to manifest vindictiveness in doses that make life for their ill-wishers simply intolerable. Their character appears full of contrasts and unpredictability. Towards those whom they love they are often tender, even sentimental. Their sense of humor easily incorporates sarcasm and caustic irony. Are talkative, charming, witty, critical and sharp, love epithets and slang expressions. Their movements are fast and gait centered, When walking their slightly bent knees provide them with an ingratiating feline resemblance. Appreciate life and tend to watch over their health, periodically exercising through sports/gymnastics. Dresses tastefully and expensively. Usually provide a bright impression of a self-assured and prospering person

Character

The persistent, energetic and determined man. Seeking his acts both directly and through intermediaries. He usually manages to become a winner. Knows how to manage people, they can impose their will and desire, draws useful and interesting things. Knows how to please: charming, humorous, a good conversationalist. It's a natural leader: it requires a struggle, the excitement, winning, without its vitality declines. Boredom - his mortal enemy. The lack of decent employment of forces makes it very difficult partner.

Configured for large real purpose, but often have difficulty in choosing them. Long swings, doubts, considering. But if the choice is made, acts quickly, picking up the pace and not calming down until it succeeds. This is a very resourceful and flexible tactics. Active and energetic, in periods of expansion develops uncommon performance. He does not like unsolicited advice, preferring to make their own decisions. Maybe listen to the interlocutor, but the last word is usually reserves. Clerk does not make a tone when it pressured - strongly fighting back. In the interest of the case shows diplomatic skills, courtesy and kindness.

It does not like it when others take the initiative, it may seem out of place: for example, something imposed or rushed - in this case can do the opposite. Very proud and touchy, but tries to hide it, considering his weakness. Do not forgive tactlessness and injustice to himself. This may cause him outbreak of aggression.

Insightful, witty, has a critical mind. In anger, showing intolerance to others' shortcomings. Knows how to give a brief description of the man, and capacious, with ridicule in the case of the presence of strangers, "put in a puddle." Actively promotes the interests of their own, and loved ones. Undesirable people could create an unfavorable environment, but to those whom he loves, he tries to provide the necessary comfort, showing attention and care.

Proud of their success and achieves a high estimate of his personality. Has a tendency to overestimate their own merits, which leads to arrogance and the desire to teach others. Self-confidence and lack of self-criticism did not facilitate his relationship with others. Respects people influential and respected. Forgiving of flexible, soft and defenseless, in need of assistance, especially to children. Often they provide protection and support. However, strict, even harsh at home and at work.

Very stubborn and demanding. In personal relationships difficult to adapt to the partner, as a fairly uncompromising. Effort of will can make sense of a subordinate to reason, proud and independent. It is often unpredictable in their actions, depends on the variability of mood. Pretty unstable in hobbies, but his affection tries to keep a long time. Values ??of the old friendship, although sentiment in the relationship usually does not show.

Strives for a high material standard of living. He has a good aesthetic taste, gourmet, can not deny myself that gives him pleasure. Durst in sex, but suspicious of love, afraid to be deceived in their hopes, wishful thinking. Quickly get tired of the monotony: he impresses psychological game with a partner, when hope is replaced by doubt - this is an element of excitement."

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There are a few problems with anonymous votes, first is that, people tend not to take it seriously because it can be used for trolling, but most importantly because people who use it imply that they don't want people to know who they are, which can mean many things, but I would say the most common would be biased votes (cena voting 6w5 for me), votes with lack of reasoning behind of them (cena voting 6w5 for me!), and votes which the person isn't up for conversation or debate towards achieving something that makes sense, as well as the fact that a lot of the anonymous voters such as Nuelzyr sometimes vote some weird stuff, and then there is a general reputation around people here, if someone considered "smart" makes a vote said vote has more power than others, and then there is the opposite, just think of tman voting.

though i dont think anyone didnt know about that

Anyway I kind of agree with INTP since I took a function magic test in real life and scored INTP! All tests always give me the same 4 functions and what changes is the order, it tends to be Ti or Te first then Ni or Ne after, but sometimes Ne is quite low compared to the other two, or Ti = Te = Ni > Ne or whatever, which would be INTJ, but then since we don't have specific sources or whatever and we are like "supposed" to follow IDR labs or were supposed to or whatever I think their INTP description fits me better than the INTJ or the INFJ I mean let me just shut up and take this! https://www.idrlabs.com/test/intj-or-intp.php one of their amazing tests! just not as amazing as the Pooh test!

That was close, though there have been questions where I would mark both options.

This actually opens up the oportunity of a recommendation I might make to strawberry crisis which is: make function votes source-dependant, like let's say I really like Beebe, then I do a Beebe vote, lets say that someone likes Jung, then someone does a vote for jungian functions, but then there is also someone who likes CS Joseph or tumblr function stuff or whatever, that person votes with CS Joseph or maybe a category called other, and in theory this could allow for multiple function votes and make it less... magical I guess?

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I don't believe in anonymous votes anymore, as in i don't see the point much so i just removed it and reput it i guess also in response to the very 'Ti loaded' debate going on with fg

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Diobono just a (loaded) question, why did you make an anonymous INTP IDR vote to then later make it public?

its because there was an anonymous INTP IDR vote that i didnt see removed until you made your vote thus i assume you made it but am genuinely curious as to why and its not like it makes any difference

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5/96 isnt even an exact answer lmfaooo

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there are answers but I'm sure Teru solved it on his own

https://sites.math.washington.edu/~m124/source/Exams/Final/final_18aut/124finalAut18_ans.pdf 

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great now i am biased because teru posted the result he achieved (maybe he got it online its prob solved somewhere) so sad

also according to cena im not josephty yet doha

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jt join discord

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wow phsc is josephty1

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phsc I now grant you the INTJ crown. I resigned in May 29 2016. 

 https://web.archive.org/web/20160505033939im_/https://i.imgur.com/EljxwSy.png

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dθ/dt = 0.052083 radian/minute

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INTJ's my vote. Also can you solve this math problem

A water trough is 12 meters long with a semi-circular cross section of radius 0.8 meters. The trough and its cross section are shown below. The pictures are not to scale. The trough is being filled at a rate of 0.3 cubic meters per minute. At what rate is the angle θ shown changing when it is 2π/3 radians? Give an exact answer with units

https://sites.math.washington.edu/~m124/source/Exams/Final/final_18aut/124finalAut18.pdf

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v i r t u a l    e x t r o v e r s i o n

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PHSC TEACHES HOW TO ABUSE IDRLABS:

it is extremely easy to edit results on their tests

so lets take the game of thrones test thing

https://www.idrlabs.com/graphic/game-of-thrones?p=50,50,50,50,50,50,50&l=EN if you mark middle for everything

what happens is that you can edit the values out of the result by opening the image and getting that, like

so with the URL you can just change stuff

https://www.idrlabs.com/graphic/game-of-thrones?p=100,0,100,100,0,0,0&l=EN

etc, if you want to make it realistic just swap the URL of the image via inspect element and add the edited test or just edit it there and screenshot

as clearly everybody knows IDRlabs are extremely accurate with everything

actually many tests are like that, some even in the result URL itself

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dated test, shit results, i should be over half schizo .. take the villain test instead

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square up pussy

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HAHAHAHA wow rock on man.

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buzzfeed is on a whole next level, they make IDRlabs cry at night

https://www.buzzfeed.com/pedrofequiere/everyone-has-a-penis-that-matches-their-personality

anyway have a random autism test result too, wait, am i breaking rules

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phsc why are you using f*nctions when there's the clearly superior IDRlabs Pooh Pathology test.

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So since the only other function vote I have was done by that person who clearly wasn't bloomer and of course is a totally serious vote, I was thinking about a way for me to bump this to achieve function votes in a natural way but then I realized it is not happening like that so I might just ask, I mean, uh, have some test results! as clearly one cannot have bias or similar things!

that Fe... anyway have some indie rock!

Just going to post the tests here for those curious, also I find it extremely sad that I made the last 4 and now 5 comments in my poll, amazing.

https://www.idrlabs.com/cognitive-function/test.php http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm https://similarminds.com/ https://jung.test.typologycentral.com/

i was going to post the crystal ball emooji but i found out discord uses svg files

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part 2 of test

NVM DOESNT WORK

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test

since deleting doesnt work anymore this will stay here even though this test involves time and if my hypothesis fails i won't be able to delete it

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So aren't you going to update the vote? that if I got your message right?

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i added one - between T and J that was not here before. it put it as full

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i voted inTj. the vote did not appeared as full T automatically.

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I tend to vote lower when I'm less famlaire with the person at hand.

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Let me casually bump this and ask tman and indirectly fg why the lower than 1 votes for T, this is the only thing I cannot understand, please show examples of when I used feeling? so if you scroll down you will find me "angry" or "emotional" but keep in mind it is all sarcasm, I thought I made that all pretty obvious, and I am unsure about any other examples that might lead them to that votings, but I am going to explain why I vote 0.75N 1T and 0.5J, then post some newer test results because I like to keep track of how much they change with time and most of the ones posted here are older than 2 months, also post Big 5 results, I won't go trough betwen I and E because I think 0.5 and 0.75 I are the only possible votes, as much as some test results put me quite extroverted I am unsure about why, I am not a really talkative person, I have a general anxiety over things which I do not understand or do not have information about and I don't really have a lot of social experience and thus I have some problems mostly around new people, even here I did do some small research on how people here acted and how everything works in a general way, and I think I did a pretty good job at it into the point that johncena on the discord server thinks I am a older user, as well as that Josephty1 thing.

I find the chances of someone reading this are quite low and the same for it not being ignored because of future votes that make this go out of the frontpage and without the latest comments as a specific thing which is the biggest problem I currently have with the website, but well maybe someone does read it, I mean I did do that extremely big analysis over functions and I actually was quite fact-oriented with it and empirical one could say too which can kill the point I make on N vs S but it is a more specific thing as this implies a posteriori and empiricism.

For N vs S, I am unsure about where to get a good source but there are a few things that makes me think I am higher on N than I might give the impression of, first of all I don't really care about facts, or reality at all, I do not like historicism, and I am not realy someone who is action oriented, I mean most of what I plan on doing isn't physical at all, I plan on working with programming and actually already formally study it, and all of it does not really exist, I do not really care for hardware though and don't really have interest in learning related topics, I do not care for facts as they can be easily manipulated into anything one wants, as well as many false correlations can be achieved out of them, this can kinda be weird considering Te should be a function of mine for those who care about it, I am unsure if is the knowledge I've consumed yet not discovered that makes me think like that though, well theres this website n etc http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations and of course logic comes before facts as well as the understanding of them, I am not really pragmatical, physical or anything, I do not do much actually, and I do a lot of useless stuff I find interesting and this has been since I was a kid, a good example is my interest in philosophy, my favourite philosopher is that is even a thing is by far Kant, though there are a lot of things I've not learned about and did not read. I really like films such as Donnie Darko, Apocalypse Now, 2001, Fight Club, all pretty generic mostly considering people who are here but sensors tend not to be so attracted to these movies as I've seen, I also have problems with executing stuff, I take too much for me to handle sometimes, and I keep imagining what might happen instead of what is, all generic stuff, but I am pretty detail oriented which is a more S thing I think, and I can - on a specific moment - have pretty good physical skills as in observing, while I am more creative over that, I could show examples but it would be too big, I am also attracted to more interesting forms of art, I do enjoy realistic pieces but it is not that much about what they represent yet the virtuosity of them, on music I enjoy some pretty weird things, Schoenberg, Stravinski, Stockhausen, not as much as I enjoy Bach, Beethoven or Chopin but I still enjoy them in a quite different way and it is more of a N thing I think, as well as really enjoying learning music theory for itself and many times not for practical use, as well as many other things I do, I am unsure about the 0.25N votes being accurate and what people were thinking about when making them, maybe the high use of tests and similar things indicating I am more of a sensor or something, I think 0.75 would be the perfect vote aka -N.

For T vs F, I am clearly T, I am unsure about how one achieves feeling, I actually have a few reasons I imagine but they heavily assume things about people and not about my behaviour, I am a pretty logical person I would say in a general way, I enjoy thinking in a general way, I am more into reading things made by Ti users and think it as more interesting, as well as most of my friends are and I try to explain things using it, I do not have that much empathy, I am really socially awkward and do not know how to react to feelings by others many times, I've never felt love and I'm dying a virgin pretty much but not a problem though I am still really young so who knows what will happen, I mean all the generic T things, at most one could say I do not seek conflict but that is just here actually, in real life I am not as chill as I might look here, quite an asshole actually and that is why I vote cp5w6 but the reason why depends on a thing I did last week which is quite long so I won't mention it at least yet.

For J vs P, this is quite tough, I really plan, that is something that people even criticize me for, I do not like changes in my plans, I do not like not having information and people who constantly change their minds on what they are going to do or do not plan at all such as my dad, I do not go far as making lists though I save almost everything I find important or interesting, I am organized in a general way and don't do a lot of heavy P things other than the way I write which is not planned and many times I do not verify things again which is weird, and I also procrastinate more than doing things earlier, though when I want to do a thing I get to it really quickly, it is more about responsabilities and I always finish what I start even if I am not going to use it or publish it, though I always try to stay open minded but many times something could've just been planned, I am not that good of a decision maker because I fear lacking information or making a mistake which is a general anxiety which I do have in a general way in correlation with everything but it is all correlated with the core fears of all of my types, mostly 5 which should be lacking information or not understanding things, there is no preference over planning things I do for joy or just doing them out of nowhere, it is mostly a mix betwen both methods of approach, I do not appear to be relaxed though, I think 0.5J because of some big P traits being present on me, another thing is being more oriented to the internal world and organizing it over the external even though I organize both.

And thus I achieve 0.5I, 0.75N, 1T and 0.5J, I am quite curious towards why two people did not vote 1T for me and really wish to understand that other than work on the assumption I have on my mind, also going to post a few test results just to mention a few things that changed over older results, also do not take these tests as absolute results n etc pretty obvious stuff I can be biased I can be stupid the tests can be bad etc.

ALSO STRAWBERRY CRISIS CAN YOU PLEASE ADD A WORKING SPOILER FUNCTION FOR IMAGES AND ALSO THE IMAGE THING DOES NOT WORK IT DOES NOT UPDATE THE FIELDS FOR SOME REASON

That test was terrible by the way, fg got 8w7 and 6 and 4 if we consider a tritype which is much different from what is voted here, that being from the discord.

I think that test is also bad, I always get 5w4 when I take it over 5w6 with a minimal different and a quite high score for 3 compared to many other tests, being also P and much more N than normal.

Results still fit with older test results I've posted so I guess that is nice?

I took that to give feedback to strawberry crisis but it seems like it did not work or strawberry crisis ignores people that post pastebin links into the minuscule feedback box, but on that test I either get ENTJ, INTJ or INTP and I get a really small score for Ni on it compared to lets say Dario Nardi's test or any other generic test.

And finally the Big5 stuff:

Unsure about how spammy this is, and unsure about why I spend my time doing something that nobody is going to read.

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tman please explain the low thinking vote, as I asked fg to explain but he probably didn't read.

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Reddit dude you forgot the XSI vote because Ne polr paranoia

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Bro, this the biggest lie you dun ever wrote. Just stop it and spare the poor souls who are tired of witnessing your lies and paranoia on the homepage. Please...for their sake. 

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I think the fact some people think I'm josepthy1, other just dislike me for some reason such as I not accepting being a type I am not and then they think that that method of acting is proof for what they are saying ignoring the fact that maybe they might not have all the information, and the people that would take this serious are from the discord but they actually want to see how I act before voting here and some are even inactive here, but in a general way it is pretty simple, the magic world of trolls and people who care and thus can be "competent", I mean this is quite like a forum after all.

That is if you're directing it to me instead of someone else on this amazing page but then I have no idea of who that could be.

But the josepthy1 thing makes some sense, random dude appears out of nowhere and finds many flaws on the website, with some typology knowledge, I would think that could be a possibility considering how few new people enter this website, I am not him and I think anyone that has talked to me on discord would agree but then I don't even know how his behaviour was so...

But let me also make a question, how are you deducing your 0.75T vote for me? so the method that I use is that a 1T vote means 8 out of 8 actions are done by thinking, that a 0.25T is 5 by thinking, a 0.25F is 3 by thinking, then when there are many actions I just round it, just to be sure I will mention that I did not get angry at all on any of this and most of it was just me ridicularizing things, just curious to know your line of thinking in achieving it because I cannot and thus am curious, maybe it can be just that I might have acted out of feelings or something similar and do not remember or just did not realize that I did.

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when i see your page. i want to ask a question? why do competent people are not respected on this site?

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hey Reddit dude so I think you should vote ESI or LSI for my sociotype even though you do not know socionics, like it has the same effect as voting ISTJ and cp6w5, ok? also don't forget about the tritype, a wonderful 269 for it to be really accurate, or 7 if you're bloomer but then read the comment I made earlier, would make sense for the ISTJ IDR vote because I voted ESTJ for bloomer but then he is like the ultimate Ni user or something ain't I right? by the way this is typical paranoid 6 behaviour okay? let's ignore everything else and focus on that because you're like the master of all typology who has a IQ of f(n) = 1/√5 {[(1+√5)/2]^n - [(1-√5)/2]^n}

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1989 TIANANMEN SQUARE PROTEST MASSACRE CHINA COVER-UP TANK MAN JUNE 5 MARTIAL LAW BANNED IMAGE

alright so now joseph is being persecuted by the government, can i ask who Reddit is

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I'm greatly offended with your ISTJ cp6w5 dude who clearly is not a alt trolling! god I love my 6 core fears, motives and behaviour and my very high use of whatever your Si means!

but you know, giving a reaction to a troll is clearly not what he wants!

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So I just want to add a thing to one of the tests I've done and posted here, the rowe, and it is pretty simple, I will start putting images in spoilers to prevent it looking extremely big on the front page.Old result and then the new result

I took the test again because I think the specific questions that were randomized for me were really making it so the specific 4 and the specific 6 questions were ones that are accurate for me, and I was indeed right.

When I took the first test, most of the 4 questions were related to art and similar concepts, many being correlated to artistic skill or just being interested in that, while the ones for 6 were about following authority figures, ideologies and common sense.

The second one was more balanced, having some questions I remember seeing in the first but some correlated with wanting to different, special or having a identity for 4 and safety, routine and paranoia for 6, which are the things that fit me the most, of course I've shown much more 6 behaviour and well bloomer even thinks I am a 6 so I guess that could be proof that the test is not accurate which is to expected but for such a long test that is supposed to be great there were flaws which is how the questions are selected, also I remember in the first test I got the same question twice, I already talked to strawberry crisis about this.

A problem with the second test is pretty obvious, sx/so/sp while all my results are sp/so/sx other than 5, 7 and 8, also the higher score on 8 was interesting, as the -9 points for 5.

In the second one maybe I could be biased towards voting more for 6 questions but these were the ones I did think the most about when taking it so that would not happen also trying to think about past actions that are related.

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yo didnt someone do the exact same thing on mbtibase haha thats crazy man

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>dumb fuck

>finds flaws in the website which you very likely can't and wouldn't be able to find if you had the knowledge

>the dude who said that to me is Jacobus

>Dostoevski as IEI, Wittgenstein as LSI, Rei as INFJ(IDR), Asuka as 2w3, Jesus as EIE, Schoenberg as INFJ and 4w5.

>tfw half of his votes are INFJ 4w5 EIE

>dumb fuck

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Can you please stop doing that you dumb fuck

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So let's check how competent strawberry crisis is at not letting people break comments.

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So just a small thing people may not know but when one googles for a website, how complex the website is and its content is a great deal, like a website that uses <h1> instead of custom fonts will be put lower in the search, as a website that has images detected as gore by some visual indentification via machine learning thing Google does and words like nigger, rape, etc.

But I actually don't think many people get here by googling it, and even then it is the 4th result for "jung function test" and no way sakinorva is getting more popular than IDRlabs, typologycentral and similarminds so there should be no problem.

But that is literally censorship we must start a revolution agaisn't abusive admins.

Also I love how my n word votes for you weren't.

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why was my n-word comment removed, this is literally censorship!!!!!

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test

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Yes I love the tests I mean don't you see how accurate aimtoknow is? I love tests, do you love indie rock??? tests are amazing.

The only thing more amazing than tests are intellectual figures I can suck the dick of, like OH MY GOD someone smart said something so it must be right! I love authority and following what others say, you know? I mean the state is so outdated, I think like Bakunin is way cooler, he has way more style, he also seems smarter than most statists.

But there is one thing I prefer over all of that, religion, oh yes, eternal hope and safety, since I am a 6 and actually I lied, I am also ESFJ and my tritype(I'm mentioning it because you don't like it) is 279, since you don't believe in it you cannot type me as 6 on it but like if strawberry crisis is a 6 then I must be a 6, but back to religion, I am really religious, like, uh, yeah, love it.

Now my bloomer god, since the mistery has been solved and I am indeed the ultimate 6w5, and I mentioned tritype, you should act like you did in the past, ok?

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You can get all of those things from things that aren't even people like books or tests. This is why you should stop narrowing it down to authority figures when it could mean anything that the 6 finds to be as a form of security, guidance or support.

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CAN'T YOU SEE I AM NOT BEING SERIOUS ffs

Even then, according to your own words:

>Type 6 seeks security, guidance and support

>State is security, guidance and support

I truly cannot take you seriously anymore

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Another example of your misunderstanding on the type 6. You don't have to look to an authority for security, guidance or support that only applies to the SJ and ESFP 6s. 

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No no I am a 6w5 you win ok? do you have a patreon? I want to pay you for such useful services! god, I mean I am an atheist but if you create an religion I am in because as a 6 I need someone to follow because I fear that or something! protect me my lord!

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What is your obsession with diverting the attention away from your typing? You keep bringing up the alts that I made ages ago which are no longer relevant. This is another prime example of your super-ego pull. What is sad is your constant avoidance of being a type 6 because of untrue assumptions on their abilities. An actual 5w6 wouldn't insinuate that security is the norm because they are avoidant at heart. Security may be the norm for most 6s and 9s but not the other types.

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The people that voted 5w6 for you are making an assumpation as well because we aren't in your head. I'm only going based on what your motives seem to behind your behaviour not the behaviour itself. 

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Yes, all 6s are bad and I don't want to be a 6 intuitive, okay? they are all dumb and gay and such! oh god! why did thy make sixes a thing! such a terrible bane!

I am indeed projecting and scapegoating! oh noes! a dude appears out of nowhere in an underground website and starts to act in really similar way to multiple individuals that have been here! and knowing that people did have osme paranoia over me when I joined here I clearly wouldn't expect what they imagine could happen to actually happen! and clearly, you do not have alts and would never make one, as clearly you did not like your own comments, which is actually a plain sad thing from my point of view, and I did not ask strawberry crisis about poll creation being made by you but I find it very interesting that, some crappy polls used to be made when you were active.

This is going nowhere, ok you win I am a 6 ok? arguments and logic? pff, ignore all that, the fact that a fear and a motive can maybe create really common behaviour for an individual and people with similar fears and motives can... have similar behaviour? and the fact we can correlate it to things such as the MBTI, socionics, Jungian functions, Big5 and actually... see that if someone is an SLE it is very likely that person is an 8 because it just makes sense for these two to go together, but not using it as the main argument yet for the basic hint for what to look for.

Now keep ignoring the vast majority of what I write and focus on specific things because that is what you're trying to achieve, but remember, I am 6, ok? I give up! I won't change my vote because uuuh let me think for a bad reason I mean uuuuh I like the number 5 ok?

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I assume, says the person that keeps accusing me of being an alt and making random polls. Projection and scapegoating are classic 6 baiting. 

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Look, I never said anyone was a 6 to get on their nerves. I see all the types on the same level. It is you that seems to that being an intuitive and a 6 somehow makes them less intuitive. If you focus on the motives and fears then why do you proceed to take a lot of stock into what result you get? Practice what you claim you do. 

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Well, now here you are just assuming stuff, god I love how much you assume.

First of all, it LOOKS LIKE I take influence from tests because THAT IS WHAT I POST HERE, if I truly followed tests I wouldn't give myself a 0.25 J vote yet something higher but I am not the biggest J on letters, but that is just an example, if I followed tests I wouldn't be considering LII so much for sociotype yet ILE and instead of LIE maybe even ILI because of the test results I've posted, but I did go trough and read about the types and LII fits, using J characteristics I am slighty more J than P if not neutral and 5w6 is over 6w5.

As you said I look like an admin, you look like some really close minded individual, after the "discussion" if even that we had into that post about indigo child I think I really do not think I should take you seriously but for some reason I enjoy replying to people in any case, and you're also blindly assuming my opinion on enneagram 6 intuitives, I in the past probably mistyped some people I find really, what would be the world, badass? such as Spinoza as 6s, well now I see I was wrong, and it is not bias agaisn't 6 or something.

BUT EVEN THEN, even if it is, I always verify what I do, and as 6 as it may sound it is mostly assuming I have bias so I talk to people and indirectly or even directly ask their opinions on me and behaviour to check how well it fits, and I won't lie, 5 is way over 6, and I do use the core fears and the motives more in that kind of thing, as I also did for socionics functions on the big analysis I made you just ignored because you know I blindly follow tests right? another proof you're not serious yet just trolling.

And the only two people I've seen you type as people from the community were me and strawberry crisis, both cases for 6 and both cases it looks like just to make us angry or something but not sure if you realized, it does not work, I find it even funny sometimes.

But you're going to ignore the part that goes agaisn't your beliefs as you always do and try to throw some terrible arguments for 6 because that is all you can do, and why I think you're a troll, but for real, I'm such a 6, I am in favor of ideas such as libertarianism because you know, I want the state to protect me and some politicians to trust because I am a 6!

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I never said you're all 6s just you and Strawberry Crisis. 

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Your actions make your motives clear. You keep seeking guidance from the tests like most 6s do and you have proven many times to be reactive and super ego-influenced. 5w6s can be paranoid but i'm not basing this purely on paranoia.

I'm only a troll because i'm not saying you're a 5 like you want. Judging by your opinion on enneagram 6 intuitives, i'm not surprised that there is hestitation to identify as such. 

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I am not a 6, I just happen to be more 6 than 4 in practice, I mean uh behaviour does not exist, ok? but back into it, mostly if we consider the fears, I want some security but I guess that is normal for most humans, I don't give two fucks about guidance and support, and the coolest part is that, in the long analysis of my socionics type I made, I mention this:

It just happens that I am more 6, on the security part and the paranoia thing, than 4, because I really don't care about my identity and I would like to be unique but not for the reasons a 4 would, it is more like people will remember who I am and I mean supply and demand, if I am different and maybe this different is a positive different I could use that for like useful things in my life or something? like in a job interview or something, being different from others but in a positive way for a useful reason.

Also can you please stop repeating the same thing always? I am pretty sure I am a 5w6, with a tritype of 513, not perfectly because who knows, what I am unsure about is my socionics type, and by the way I really cannot see you being LIE, the way you act with the enneagram which is the thing you use the most is more socio Ti than Te even and the fact you keep or at least kept creating alts could be considered more of a Se thing, but it is mostly lack of socio Ni.

But I still think you're an troll or just an alt so meh, and I love how hypocritical you are sometimes.

>Don't use behaviour.

>YOU'RE ALL SIXES BECAUSE YOU'RE PARANOID ABOUT SOME RANDOM UNDERGROUND TYPOLOGY WEBSITE STUFF!

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Type 6 seeks security, guidance and support (super ego-pull). If you are counterphobic then think if you are naturally complliant based on seeking security, guidance or support or withdrawn based on the fear of needing others or depletion. 

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Focus on the motives and fears. The tests are famous for mistyping 6s. 

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5w4, so/sp(if I understood the results right, sp=so so in theory it took the results out of other variants and things like the -12 on type 2 sp might have been the deciding criteria)

I still identify with 6 more than 4 but I think like the fact I compose and am interested in art in a general way affected the results in the art oriented questions a lot even though I like things I assume 5w6s in history have liked in art such as counterpoint in music, but I MEAN I AM A 6W5 BIOOMER SAYS SOMETHING IT MEANS ITS TRUE OK?

or maybe just cp things? 

I mean it is indeed a test so there can be bias, me just not knowing who I actually am or something, etc.

The 10 points for 8 on social are interesting though.

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I just realized I posted the same test twice.

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I love the 500 user limit.

So I wrote a lot more text but now it is all gone and I didn't save it but anyway I got 34.3e vs 75i, 19.8e 89i, and a fucking 2e and 32i on sakinorva tests I posted.

Also isn't the fact I get literally all votes I do based on my personal experience socially being wrong indicate that I suck socially or don't know much people or know the wrong ones or just am unlucky or am actually right a signal that I am more introverted? this is the worst argument I've made in my entire life.

But I went to look for older 16personalities test I took, I mean uuuh I did all of them in the time the website was offline because I am an introvert and what you say matters to me.

So I use discord as like a database even though they steal my information but does not matter for this kind of stuff, and older than 3-4 months was in a older server that I deleted for some reason but anyway here are some older test results, or I could be faking them right now in the period the website was off and I mean I could inspect element the text via the browser discord for the date thing but meh.

Link in the screenshot, from results, so lightshot works like it stores it and you can see the date of a image in the link.

https://prnt.sc/lbffjr

They are on m as the main letter now, so I guess it is a proof it is at least a little bit old, it can be further but I jsut changed the l to m.

Well I saw your ENTJ IDR vote before the website went out, and sakinorva really enjoys giving it to me, I also got INTP like twice but I cannot find the results but really back then I got like one INTJ result I also cannot find!

Even then this is tests I can be biased it is all pretty old people change I guess etc etc

I literally have two friends and am going to die alone as a virgin and the saddest part is that I have no problems with that etc my mom thinks I'm the most introverted person ever but then she is a ESFJ 2w3 and fun fact, I literally have never been to party and I don't like initiating on people at all actually I hate it but ok.

Now a what I imagined would be a bunch of sakinorva function test results that are supposed to be old or something that give ENTJ!

Also unsure if strawberry crisis changed a few of the questions since then but ok.

I don't see myself as an extrovert but then it is just a vote and your opinion.

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So here is the thing, why is what I consider important less important than what you consider your important? what if I find the votes on my profile on a underground website actually important? it is not about that tho, it is just me not knowing where I fit in socionics and I made that public because maybe, maybe someone would read that and give me some help and I do the same kind of "analysis" for a lot of stuff, and I do have some anxiety over really minimal things which is something I find interesting, and that makes me lose a ton of opportunities, but anyway, this is not one of these things, I am just curious towards what I am in socionics, maybe the system is wrong but lets go to people that trust it and have more experience with it than me.

But why cannot one want to be labeled? some people enjoy that, what is the problem? just because you don't think it is healthy for them? what if health is not what said person values? etc.

Also there is another problem, what is broad? lets say I know 3 things, you know 30, if one of these things applies to the other two for me while for you it is a completely separate one, wouldn't that thing be really important for me? not like it is but your "argument" is not really valid.

Also one can be a levelheaded and analytical figure over things that are unimportant and superfluos on your view, can't them? like I am an atheist and a lot of people think about god and achieve some conclusions, in my point of view it is all useless but I understand that for them it can be important, I think you got what I am trying to say.

But then subjectivity also falls into a problem which is, what if one simply decides reason is not the right thing and etc it is pretty obvious past this point.

This might be getting to r/im14andthisisdeep with a mix of r/iamverysmart so I guess I will end it here but ok so considering you very likely did read at least a little bit of that, considering everything, what do you think? LII? LIE? ILE? LSI? 

Also just a small observation, so I like listening to classical music, and well, symphonies are long and sometimes I do not just want to sit for an hour listening to them, mostly if it is one I have listened to before, so I do something relatively simple while listening to one for the sake of it, and that comment was one of these, as some "typing" sessions I do on the website because I do enjoy the activity, etc, is that unimportant from your point of view?

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I do want to clarify that I do not vote cp because it fits my natural preference to do so, but instead because I have voted on many influential figures that are long passed from our current world, and in their short time in this world, they were able to overcome their internalized angst and fears. That being said, my vote for cp5w6 was because you initially presented yourself as a levelheaded, analytical figure but recently you have demonstrated your immense anxiety over what is superfluous and rather unimportant in the broad range of things. One cannot allow themself to be cornered by labels and caricatures. 

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So this is going to be me talking about my sociotype which I am not completely sure as of the moment I start writing this, keep in mind this is not only made for the sake of commenting but also and most importantly for the sake of me finding out my true socionics type, as I consider my enneagram 5w6 1w9 3w4 sp/so my letters being 0.5 I 0.5 N (maybe 0.75) 1 T and 0.25 J(maybe 0.25 P or 0, unsure) and according to cognitive functions as in a IDR vote, INTJ.

I have arguments for all of that up but I am not going to post a ton of text I wrote in the past and could write as arguments for these typings, I am open minded to changes but I find it very unlikely one is going to find out I am a different type for said things.

Into Socionics, I am going to try to show proof according to my behavior in the website for LII and LIE, considering maybe a small analysis of why people voted what they did, then using real life behavior, then using many other typing methods, then based on some experiments I did related to it, and then achieving a final conclusion, or trying to at least.

1 : Website

On this website, I have not been heavily analytical or anything like that, which would be more of a Ti trait, and not that much argumentative, and when argumentative I have been more empiric than logical, also most of the times I fucked up it was related to INFPs which is something I find interesting, and well, if I got socionics right, Te is a function way more correlated to empiricism , as LIE, when compared to LII, being the types I would consider myself as and votes also have considered, other than that I tend to assume a lot of stuff, which is if I am right socio Ne, mostly as I always try to mention that I am assuming things that indicate Ti use I would say, other functions not very shown, I guess Si since I want to maintain the website in peace and using Ne and not sure if Te or Ti to find errors in the website that can be abused, unsure about Fi and Fe use – all I know is that I am really socially awkward here I think – I do not remember showing any kind of Se and Ni, keep in mind if my definitions are wrong just tell me about it, but according to what I’ve seen commented on typings, assumed on the logic behind votes made by others and such things, I think they are right, also I did read that post by fg where he compares socionics functions with Jungian ones, and did of course read material related to it.

Going deeper into it, it is obvious a Fx is what I consider my worst function and thus deducing it as my role function, not sure if Fe but later on I will explain that better.

Unsure about other functions and how I might have showed them here, Ne and Te being the ones I personally think I have shown the most but it does not fit the Model A as in theory one should be in the Id and one should be in the Ego, if that is what you guys use but I am also unsure.

On the votes, I will start from bottom to top:

Me: I consider myself LII by many reasons and I will explain them later.

Phantom: I guess the fact that my socio Fe sucks, that I fit the ExxJ temperament according to my behavior here, maybe Te since I prepared things for others to type me? Unsure.

Teru: Of course could be trolling, I did show way more Te use and lack of knowing that empiricism is highly subjective and I also showed myself as more of a P and in theory LIIs are really rational and in socionics that would mean J for MBTI if I got it right, again maybe the same thing for my crappy Fe, etc.

NiTech: So I am going to divide this in three cases:

1 – He thinks I am a Ti Ne user, reasons I explained before diving into specific typings.

2 – He is GalaxyStrider, who is someone that went to talk to me on Discord, and if I remember right had sociotype as LII-Ti, Jungian type as INTJ and enneagram as 5wi don’t remember, 1w9 and don’t remember the other one, which seems to fit, considering my behavior in his discord I would also imagine I am a LII since I literally joined, talked to him for a few minutes, he mentioned a test, I took it, didn’t post results, didn’t say a word, left it, then a while ago posted said test results here, unsure about the low rating on I since that would be a thing that indicates more I behavior but again I am assuming he is said person and this is a pure guess and I can be completely wrong, there is also a thing I’ve seen that is people in older comments mentioning the name GalaxyStrider so maybe that is an account but I did go through all accounts considering ID for the website and do not remember finding it but I did go considerably quick.

On it, GalaxyStrider does not have, at least currently, an account on the website, but I see that there were likes by him, which is interesting, also there was some kind of discussion between Teru and kawaii that he was mentioned but here is the thing, I have no fucking idea and this is a pure guess.

3 – Maybe he just saw I consider myself LII and voted LII, this seems to be a thing, as well as people voting for types that have been voted by people they trust but then I assume they are not doing some effort to understand the thinking behind other votes.

The cp5w6 is the best part of this, I do not consider myself a cp5w6, just a generic 5w6 but that was more of a test to see if people would vote cp5w6 for me if I considered myself a cp5w6, which happened and I do not blame NiTech for it, I would very likely do the same and maybe after all I can be a cp5w6, ResoluteSoul really likes voting cp for people though.

2 : Real life and other methods:

You guys could assume some things about my life, first of all that I know programming or at least website-related programming since I was able to find flaws on this, I do know actual programming and plan on working in that area for the rest of my life unless it dies for some reason which I find a unlikely thing to happen.

Other than that, maybe aspergers but then it is just Jacobus mentioning it but kawaii when he went on private chat via GalaxyStrider’s discord to talk to me mentioned he also considered it a thing, maybe it can be some bias because of that theory I could be josepthy1.

Anyway I am a 16 year old who happens to be a enneagram 5 and then likes learning a bunch of crap and most of it has no use(this is also a thing against Te, most in the case of LIE, according to what I know, is related to learning useful things), I do not have many friends, I mean in real life I would consider one but even then not that much, online a considerable amount, still not super personal with anyone, I like learning things as I mentioned, I like many and many areas and that is kind of a problem, I want to live alone, I am very likely going to die a virgin and have no problems with that but wouldn’t consider myself asexual but also not an incel, also I have a theory for my own post jungian system but it is underdeveloped and I need a lot of information and things and I don't want to give information about it, at least yet.

By functions, I personally consider myself a Ti Ne user as main functions, reading type descriptions by Gulenko and the one by V. Megend and A. Ovcharov I also think I fit pretty well into LII-Ti, at most there are problems, the Model A mentions the Id functions as boring and meaningless, and me not finding much meaning in them, but I do not think they are boring and yeah the skill thing seems to make sense and fit.

The biggest problem I have with LII is Se, I would say my Se is quite decent, I do not lack confidence in it, nor am sensitive to criticism, I find it boring and useless.

I consider me as having higher Fi than Fe, which also fits LIE more if I got things right.

But I am more long-term oriented on my thinking and this would indicate Ni use.

There are other methods of typing, so let me get into it:

Quadras:

I am for sure an Alpha, learning a bunch of useless stuff for the sake of it is a alpha thing, I like discussing theoretical and not practical at all concepts for joy, that is one of the reasons I read philosophy and economy on my free time, not because I am going to be a philosopher or an economist, but because I enjoy it, also the philosophers I like the most are Descartes and Kant and if I got it right, alphas like things that makes sense.

Other than that, I would consider most of the people I talk to and enjoy talking to as alphas, I will explain that later.

Also, on values, I am clearly democratic, I defend the free market in a general way but the actual free market, without corporatism which is the biggest problem related to it, won’t go deeper at least now.

Other than that, beta really not, delta? Nope, gamma? I mentioned I am more long-term oriented after all, but then I do not enjoy talking about useful things unless it is important.

Temperaments:

I consider myself a IxxJ, with some ExxJ traits, I am in a general way really calm, I can get angry over minimal things sometimes but maybe it is aspergers which I am unsure if I actually do have or not and I am going to an actual psychiatrist in a very close future, but even then it is not something that changes my thinking or makes me impulsive and it does not last long.

ExxJ could be a thing, if I am deep into something I am kinda restless, I have a lot of problems with sleeping and a thing I saw is that ExxJs fidget while IxxJs don’t, in my case it really depends, but I would say more of a yes than a no, but I’m not sure how accurate this is, as I am also not sure about how accurate the movement thing is, as I would fit more of an IxxJ style of movement than a ExxJ.

Dichotomies:

There are three test results that consider these, or two, actually I don’t remember but am not going to look, that have results for dichotomies, but I do not consider it that accurate.

I consider myself more introverted than extroverted, mostly in real life, unsure if I have social anxiety or something, more intuitive than sensing of course, but not extremely, logical for fucking sure, irrational and rational are an interesting thing, I am not really sure where I fit the best but would consider slighty more rational, constructivist slightly, negativist and positivist neutral, democratic for sure, merry and serious balanced, asking way more, slightly more strategic, obstinate also, result and process neutral, static considerably high amount.

Anyway I found this random Russian test that uses dichotomies so I decided I would take it considering what I would put for me to see where I end up.

http://socionics.org/test/reinincalc.asp?advanced=1#@form

Also fits with INTj LII.

3 : What if I am completely biased for being INTj LII-Ti?

Well, I did consider this possibility, and maybe I still am or something, but here is what I decided I would do: ask people that know me well information related to that.

And by people that know me well, I considered both from real life, internet, people that are close or not that close to me, etc.

I ended up doing it with 10 people, I took a definition of functions from sociotype.com on the page Information Elements that has a small description of them, changed them from Ti Ne Fi Se to 1 2 3 4 so there would be no bias because maybe someone saw me mentioning Jungian functions at a specific moment, even though I think one person was biased.

So, who are the people? I will not give names because I do not know if they would like it, or even allow it and I did not ask them.

H: Ixtp ISTP SLI-Si 9w8 973 sx/sp - 7 m

Z: eNtP INTP ILE-Ne 9w1 954 sp/so - 6 y

T: ISTJ ISTJ SLI-Si 9w1 935 sp/so - 6 y

A: INFP INFP SLI-Si 4w3 495 sp/sx 6 m

D: InxJ ISFJ LII-Ti 9w1 952 sp/so - 1 y

D2: INFx SEI-Si 9w1 964 sp/sx - 6 m

Z2: ENtP LSE-Si 7w8 729 so/sx - 5 m

J: INTP INTP ILE-Ti 5w4 592 sp/sx - 7 m - biased

K: iSfj ISFJ SEI-Si 9w1 962 sp/so - 6 y

G: INtp ISTJ ILI-Te 5w4 549 sp/so - 5 m

I would say it matters because not only the conversation topics and style changes between the people I talk to, but also how they view me.

So the categorization means, I being >50% for I, I being 1 to 50%, same for N, T and J, then their sociotype and I like to make it specific, then the enneagram, the tritype according to this websites format and then the variant, followed by the amount of time I’ve known them, m being months and y being years.

I think J who is someone I mentioned Jung to a lot, just followed more of his definitions and my test results and what I consider myself as from a Jungian view in, which is INTJ, I will still consider his opinion though.

So what were their votes?

H:   Te > Ti > Se > Ne > Ni > Fi > Si > Fe (7>1>4>2>8>3>6>5) - ExxJ

Z:    Te > Se > Ni > Ne > Ti > Fi > Si > Fe (7>4>8>2>1>3>6>5) - ExxJ

T:    Ti > Te > Se > Ni > Ne > Si > Fe > Fi (1>7>4>8>2>6>5>3) - IxxJ

A:    Ti > Ne > Se > Te > Fe > Ni > Si > Fi (1>2>4>7>5>8>6>3) - ExxJ

D:    Ti > Te > Ni > Se > Si > Ne > Fi > Fe (1>7>8>4>6>2>3>5) - IxxJ

D2:  Ti > Te > Se > Ni > Ne > Fi > Fe > Si (1>7>4>8>2>3>5>6) - ExxJ

Z2:   Te > Ti > Se > Ne > Ni > Si > Fi > Fe (7>1>4>2>8>6>3>5) - IxxJ

J:      Ni > Te > Se > Ne > Ti > Si > Fi > Fe (8>7>4>2>1>6>3>5) - ExxJ - biased

K:     Ti > Se > Fi > Te > Ne > Ni > Fe > Si (1>4>3>7>2>8>5>6) - ExxJ

G:    Ti > Se > Ni > Ne > Te > Si > Fe > Fi (1>4>8>2>7>6>5>3) – ExxJ

1: Ti(6) Te(3) Ni(1)

2: Ti(2) Te(4) Ne(1) Se(3)

3: Se(6) Ni(3) Fi(1)

4: Te(2) Ni(5) Ne(2) Se(1)

5: Ti(2) Te(1) Ni(2) Ne(3) Si(1) Fe(1)

6: Ni(2) Ne(1) Si(4) Fi(3)

7: Si(3) Fi(3) Fe(4)

8: Si(2) Fi(3) Fe(5)

The most basic form of interpreting that results would be that I am a LSI, which is interesting, I will go back to it later.

If we formulate the data in another way, as 1 = x * 8 and 8 = x * 1:

Ti: 48 + 14 + 8 = 70

Te: 24 + 28 + 10 + 4 = 66

Ni: 8 + 18 + 25 + 8 + 6 = 65

Ne: 7 + 25 + 12 + 3 = 47

Si: 4 + 12 + 6 + 4 = 26

Se: 21 + 36 + 5 = 62

Fi: 6 + 9 + 6 + 3 = 24

Fe: 4 + 8 + 5 = 17

Which makes it so:

Ti(70)>Te(66)>Ni(65)>Se(62)>Ne(47)>Si(26)>Fi(24)>Fe(17)

I think I should’ve made it so the 5th 6th 7th 8th functions in peoples list should give negative score until *-4 but I will make so it goes like that after I talk about the current results.

And well, interesting, Ti dom? Unsure, Te Ni are both really high and close and that would be LIE and if I got things right this I am doing exactly right now is Te use not Ti even though I think I did Ti use earlier in this analysis, I’d say Ne was really low for LII.

So I think LIE, LII and LSI are choices? I personally would not put LSI into it but I did consider it for the part after the next part.

Considering how Model A goes, unsure, Fi and Si higher than Fe, Si would be the POLR for LIE if I am right and I would say that is not true, I mean I do care about minor details many times, and well sometimes I do not care about my surroundings or comfort, but in a general way I do, and I care and am worse with Fe or Fi way more, but then, the POLR for LII is Se which was something I got a quite high value in, and well I do end up being a leader in many situations, I am bad at making people want me to be one and achieving that but I am not bad at being a leader itself, but a thing I’ve seen is that because of this, LIIs work alone, and most of the time I prefer to work alone, and why the fuck does the Brazilian schooling system want people to fucking work in groups fuck you Brazilian schooling system ok?

But now, here is the thing, maybe I am completely wrong with everything I wrote so far, and this is why I am going to make it public unlike past analysis I made on other systems, because someone that maybe reads this can just refute the hell out of me, and keep in mind I do not really care if you act like an asshole or like the most friendly person when showing me that I am wrong, actually I love you for showing I am wrong, you can boost your ego and be an asshole if you want to, not like me saying “please don’t hurt me!” is going to make a difference but keep in mind I don’t care because I see there are some people in this website that enjoy it when people care.

Also same thing related to the data and in a general way everything, if I am not capable of looking into a fucking picture and seeing that IEI is higher than EII before making a comment who knows if this won’t happen here.

Anyway, here with it going from x*4 to x*-4

Ti: 24 + 6 - 2 = 28

Te: 12 + 12 + 2 – 1 = 25

Ni: 4 + 3 + 6 + 5 – 2 – 4 = 12

Ne: 3 + 6 + 2 – 3 – 2 = 6

Si: -1 – 8 – 12 – 8 = -29

Se: 9 + 12 + 1 = 22

Fi: 2 – 1 – 6 – 9 – 12 = -26

Fe: -1 – 12 – 20 = -33

The results would be:

Ti(28)>Te(25)>Se(22)>Ni(12)>Ne(6)>Fi(-26)>Si(-29)>Fe(-33)

Compared to the previous:

Ti(70)>Te(66)>Ni(65)>Se(62)>Ne(47)>Si(26)>Fi(24)>Fe(17)

So what changes is that Se gets a higher positions when compared to Ni and Fi gets a higher position when compared to Si.

Well, not much achieved other than the fact that, I myself consider myself LII, people I know consider myself either LIE or LSI, so I decided I would do a thing I’ve seen many people do here that is using the description of type behavior by Gulenko and most importantly by V. Megend and A. Ovcharov, and I did, I did not send it to everyone.

So I ended up picking 5 people out of that 10 list, these were H, Z, Z2, J, T.

I sent the descriptions by both to H, Z and J, while only the one by V. Megend and A. Ovcharov to Z2 and T, but in a general way people focused more on the descriptions by them as they have more information.

I sent to all of them the ones for LSI-Ti, LSI-Se, SLE-Ti, SLE-Se, LII-Ti, LII-Ne, ILE-Ti, ILE-Ne, LIE-Te and LIE-Ni.

Some put them in order like with the functions, others just gave ratings, I will consider it as in order as the functions using the ratings to order it.

H: ILE-Ti=LII-Ne>LIE-Te>LII-Ti>ILE-Ne>LIE-Ni>didn’t rate others as they were too different

Z: LII-Ne>ILE-Ti>LII-Ti>ILE-Ne>LIE-Ni>LIE-Te>LSI-Ti>didn’t give ratings for others

Z2: LIE-Te=LII-Ti>SLE-Te>LSI-Ti>for all others as 0

J: LII-Ti>ILE-Ti>LII-Ne>LIE-Te>didn’t mention others as he said they were too different

T: ILE-Ti>LSI-Ti=LII-Ti>LSI-Se>SLE-Se>SLE-Te>LIE-Te=LIE-Ni>LII-Ne>ILE-Ne

I also decided to ask my parents, my dad who is a enfP INFP SLI-Si 9w1 926 sp/sx and my mom who is a ESFJ ESFJ SEE-Fi 6w7 621.

Both didn’t want to order the functions, mom said IxxJ and dad ExxJ, comparing using the descriptions by V. Megend and A. Ovcharov, dad said LII-Ti, mom ILE-Ti.

Keep in mind I had to translate them to Portuguese for some people, my parents included.

And well, I would say ILE-Ti was the one most chosen, which is interesting because I never tested for ILE other than once in that weird test I posted here that GalaxyStrider sent to me when I was on his Discord.

Anyway, still, I decided I’d just send descriptions for functions in each specific… slot? Is that the word? Well, only Z, Z2, H and J said yes, and all of them said LII was the most accurate other than Te and Ni which were LIE.

Anyway, all of this just made me even more confused on my type, but I imagined it would happen, also I did send all of these people questions about what quadra I would fit, all said alpha.

So, with all of this, I am not completely sure about my type and if I have wrong knowledge on socionics, but I would say I am LII-Ti, and people who are reading this, if someone at all because there are not many people in the website and this was a lot of text, at the current moment, 3803 words, I could’ve made it shorter but I wanted to give all specific data as well as some of my behavior so it is easier for others to type me based on this, also please, explain your vote, and keep in mind it is not about what the website says I am yet because I want to know what I am, and I don’t think it is socionics being a bad system yet very likely me being stupid in correlation with it. Also I imagine that going around asking people their opinions about me and trying to understand it is a very Te thing but consider I tried understanding it myself first etc.

TL;DR: What’s the sociotype of a person that would write a fucking almost 4k word long comment on a underground MBTI/Jung/Enneagram/Socionics website because that person cannot fucking achieve a conclusion of which classification said person fits in?

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What is better than posting a lot of test results I've done in the past... not sure how long exactly but anyway, I save most results so here they are:

AAAAND just to end with the cherry on top with the greatest test ever made on earth:

I am very likely a member of alpha quadra, at least I'd say so, I did not save the results from these tests from sociotype.com which gives values for quadras, and if someone has a test for it I am interested.

I am not sure how much type relations play out in socionics yet, I do have a idea but I am not going to bet I know much about it thus not going to mention my opinion, but I have two people I could call friends, both being ILE, one INTP and one ENTP and both 5w4, difference being one is 592 sp/sx and other being 541 sp/so.

Anyway, on the letter typings I personally think what I voted for myself is what I am, I do not know if I do or do not have aspergers and I am going to go to a psychiatrist in some period of time for some things my parents think I need to do.

Anyway I might also give out the reason I am here and how I found this website out:

After getting the basics of Jung and cognitive functions I wanted to find a community to talk about it, I did talk about with these two friends I mentioned but I wanted external options and maybe a way to see other type behaviour and of course get more concepts right, etc.

And I decided, what place better than Reddit? well, r/mbti is crap and I do not think I need to explain why, so I imagined someone probably had made a website for typing, and I found out about mbtidatabase, which is also crap, so somewhere somehow I found out about mbtibase, which was pretty interesting but the website was dead, so I kept typing people by myself for my own sake, mostly real life people as I can get more information from them, and some day I googled "cognitive function test", saw sakinorva, took it, and found out there was more to the website but I did not act directly creating an account or anything, I actually just used the test, gave it to some people I know to see if it was great and well it is pretty decent, anyway then I found out about the actual voting part of this website and decided I would take part in it, after looking a little bit on how behaviour here works, what each kind of vote exactly does, lurking around before acting, the reason I am here is because I simply have fun typing people and this is mostly because here I can know if I am right or wrong based on others opinions and comments which makes it a little bit more accurate and etc I mean this is all pretty obvious I guess.

And I guess that is it, any questions, tests, anything at all, very likely not going to happen because I know I am boring, not interesting and other things but I will not lie I do not really care but I am interested in strangers opinions on my type and well while I imagine most people who would actually vote for my type already did maybe in the future or something someone finds this comment useful, but very likely it is just going to be annoying on the front page as I think the images can break it a little bit if the resolutions are too big and the amount of text is relatively high so it might make it living hell to scroll down but meh.

Also that fancy socionics test with the green bars was recommended by someone from a discord server and actually I do not know how accurate most of these are, I personally like keys2cognition for cognitive functions and the rest are just for the sake of it and the fact I did some of them in the past, and some of these I could've been affected by something in real life, anger, sadness, etc which could make the results different but that is obvious.

Oh, and the name, phsc, comes from physics, tfw you're 11 and you like something, it is also the abbreviation of my real life name so that is why I picked these exact letters, actually it sounds more like p eich n see or something like that but in practice as voice-chat or something people either call me physics or phisk but not like it matters and I like the name it is not common so I kept it.

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Yes I take everything literally and cannot understand sarcasm because of that.

Unironically tho I went to a psychiatrist like a week ago or something and he said I do not have autism maybe aspengers but I am going to do a ton of tests anyway so maybe, he said it is a possibility tho. Also isn't autism a LII thing? what now losers? I am always right!

I have made 42 comments and I have no likes.

This is so sad, can we hit 50 likes?

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phsc have you ever been diagnosed with autism, Asperger's syndrome, or any other autism spectrum disorder?

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No because I care about some lovely pixels on my screen because they are everything to me! what you guys say DEFINES ME! 

Also can you stop writing like that, it is just annoying, I know you are or want to be a INFJ ok? such wiseness.

Clearly the reason is that I did not learn socionics was a thing like two weeks ago and want opinions from people who have more experience with it, ok? I am indeed the person with the most knowledge about every single topic and cannot be affected by things such as confusion.

THESE VOTES ARE EVERYTHING TO ME, PLEASE RESPECT THAT!!!11!!!!!111!! 

but for real lower that 9 for fucks sake it annoys me

and saying that is the best way to make people not lower their 9 votes anyway, but ok give me moral lesson mr INFJ

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Votes are quite frivolous, are they not? I still desire honesty with the process within itself and this goes without saying to do plentiful research and consideration before voting on a single page. However, to display such immense care towards the perception of self by others is quite shortsighted. I guess I just want to say that it shouldn't be something to be taken seriously. The world is plunging into chaos and this is not an issue to be considering.

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Can you lower your 9 vote a little bit so my actual 1 stays a little bit higher? I mean, not even 8? really? 9? I mean you are taking this at least a little bit serious, but 9? I clearly love peace of mind, I hate conflict, I like to preserve things, I am in a general way very chill, I mean that 9 vote really goes well with the cp5w6 vote but I got to agree with it, as if this is purely based on how I act here and I did this:

I am some kind of sakinorvian terrorist I guess, same level as unabomber, also my ego and my antisocial behavior is on the same level as Bobby Fischer.

Also remember to vote cp7w6 if I at some day become a sucessful musician, ok? also add a 7 to my tritype because all musicians, mostly classical because there is no such thing as music theory at all so they cannot be 5.

Actually I did not understand your comment, unironically. Is it positive about me being LII or negative about me... caring about if I am LIE or LII? this might be coming off as a big aggressive but that is because I am manipulating you into changing that 9 vote to 8 because I am the 9 god, ok?

Oh I forgot I am supposed to give this a rest.

This is part of me roleplaying as a LIE, ok?

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Bring clarity to the world, do not be pressured to let truth be shrouded by darkness.

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Dude give it a rest

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Actually now that I think about it almost everything I did here indicates LIE, I guess the votes are right considering the information they have about me, fair, I guess, I still don't think I am a LIE mostly considering real life behaviour, and the type relationships if I understood them right also colaborate towards me being LII, I can give more information if anyone wants but I guess it is not going to happen considering how people have been reacting.

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Are you guys unironically voting me LIE just because of the most I made on Jacobus profile?

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Can someone explain to me why I am a LIE? are these serious vote?

Anyway I did this test so I am posting results here and I really think the results were interesting:  http://aimtoknow.com/test_beta

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/547896706663055361/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/547896749197492254/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/547896807431077916/unknown.png

I don't really think I am a SLE and from LII to SLE is pretty weird too I guess.

Also I am not sure if I mentioned this but I compose, also all the pieces are pretty small:

https://soundcloud.com/phsc7/etude-no2

https://soundcloud.com/phsc7/bipolar-etude-op-1

https://soundcloud.com/phsc7/string-quarter-bb-major

Also I am 16 years old.

And a bunch of test results:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/543617308065792000/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/542142278601539604/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/538027566783660032/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/538027587369304066/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/542151348590739457/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/541297892942676009/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/538770574562951168/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/535958548975321089/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510499541792063508/533036285666000916/unknown.png

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May I ask exactly why I am LIE?

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com on joseph..

we talked about this!!!!

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wait u actually did it.. THE AUDACITY!!

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who gave you permission to use the hard-R? are you racist or something?

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Uh so here is the deal the most characters i can put in a vote is 5 and the n word has 6 so i either put it as nigga or as niger or as nword but then it is only for the enneagram or the variants

maybe if i find a good method for doing sql injections i can insert it directly or maybe it is javascript that limits it to 4 or 5 letters and if it is i can change it but it is very likely PHP anyway uh I don't think I will get banned for that because I unironically destroyed all IDR votes yesterday so I guess it is no problem

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yo dude.. think you can fit the n-word as a vote? for testing purposes

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I think you know how to fix it but make so you get the index of the selected option instead of the value it has, or make so it runs specific functions or procedures like you do with the ones I cannot change, or just verify if it fits the criteria for each kind of vote.

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Hey, there is also a problem with the voting system for the instinctual variants which is pretty funny.

http://prntscr.com/mmgkti

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Actually no need now since many comments have been made since I made mine so now it does not affect the main page anymore, but the website is yours so feel free to remove it and feel free to ban me if I someday do something you consider wrong because this is your property and etc and I am the one supposed to say thank you because you actually care and well I could see myself getting banned for that kind of stuff in other websites so great!

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I’ll just remove your comment when I’m able to but thank you for not abusing it hahaha

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XSS hasn’t really been a problem on the site yet but I guess I’ll do something about it now

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ok so now i will type lots of text and

back to normal or smth

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So I just had the curiosity to try to see if I can do this.

Which is pretty simple, I will remove the p tag while in commend more, so no need for edit mode!

So now in theory I am capable of doing this kind of thing and I did read the rules and I hope I will not get banned for doing but anyway really cool!

So in theory this should be 2 comments by now? not sure?

EDIT: so it adds one p tag per line? I am going to make another comment to try to break it again.

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So I am curious about what type random people who don't know me at all think I am based on my 22 comments on this lovely website.

I made most of my comments in the following character's pages: Asuka Langley Sohryu, Socrates, 9w1, Libertarianism and INFP.

And no, this does not say I have Si and remember things, I unironically wrote it out because I planned on making this post a while ago but I was thought I did not have enought comments for anything to be possible to be deduced from it.

Now, since I have a reason to make a post, I will use the rest of it to try to make a few tests using this text editor and the website in a general way, and also the edit feature if I got right what it does.

I think testing the features giving test results is a great idea.

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