Extraversion ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

Extraversion ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

Extraversion

MBTI dichotomies

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function

ennea

variant

socio

psycho

ESFP 3

ESTP 2

ESFJ 1

7w8 5

2w3 2

8w7 1

3w2 1

so/sx 7

SEE 4

ESE 2

VEFL 1

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public myers-briggs votes

(20/12/19 18:55) Tman: ESFP

(19/06/09 22:41) typometrics.tumblr: ESxx

(19/06/10 04:36) ally: ENFP

(19/05/21 03:32) INTJ-2698: ESFx

(19/05/20 15:03) fg: ExFx

(19/02/03 14:14) strawberry crisis: ENFP

(19/06/09 22:16) Teru Mikami: ENFP

(19/02/03 10:23) Taco110: ESFP

(19/02/03 14:17) *~snow~*: ENFP

(19/02/02 22:58) LadyX: ESTJ

public function votes

(20/12/19 18:55) Tman: ESTP

(19/06/09 19:50) ally: ESFP

(19/05/21 03:32) INTJ-2698: ESFP

(19/02/03 14:17) *~snow~*: ESFP

(19/02/03 10:24) Taco110: ESFJ

public enneagram votes

(19/12/16 16:32) Thyssen: 3w2

(20/12/19 18:54) Tman: 7w8

(19/06/09 21:06) typometrics.tumblr: 7w8

(19/05/21 03:32) INTJ-2698: 2w3

(19/02/03 14:36) *~snow~*: 7w8

(19/02/03 12:34) Teru Mikami: 2w3

(19/02/03 10:24) Taco110: 7w8

(19/02/02 22:58) LadyX: 8w7

public instinctual variant votes

(20/12/20 01:02) LadyX: so/sx

(19/07/15 17:49) tman: so/sx

(19/06/09 21:06) typometrics.tumblr: so/sx

(19/06/09 19:50) ally: so/sx

(19/02/03 10:25) Taco110: so/sx

(19/02/03 10:16) Phantom: so/sx

public tritype® votes

(20/12/19 18:54) Tman: 738

(19/06/09 21:08) typometrics.tumblr: 738

(19/06/09 04:52) INTJ-2698: 278

(19/02/03 14:37) *~snow~*: 738

(19/02/03 12:36) Teru Mikami: 268

(19/02/03 10:25) Taco110: 728

(19/02/03 10:16) Phantom: 378

(19/02/02 22:57) LadyX: 873

public sociotype votes

(20/12/19 18:57) Tman: SEE

(19/05/21 03:32) INTJ-2698: SEE

(19/05/20 15:03) fg: ESE

(19/02/03 12:13) Teru Mikami: ESE

(19/02/03 10:16) Phantom: SEE

public psychosophy votes

(20/12/19 18:56) Tman: VEFL

public hexaco votes

Teru Mikami,

I disagree about N being more extraverted than S, it was a interesting perspective at first glance but upon further inspection the idea falls apart.

N is more internally oriented than S. That is to say that in terms of being the closest to the raw stream of mental life, N is perhaps more important than anything else (in both function and dichotomies). In my opinion, at least from a functional approach to typology, N types are often in danger of getting a bit high on their own thoughts and associations and then spending a lot of effort on those as opposed to spending a lot of effort on reality. David Hume, Mark Twain, Aldous Huxley, Jacques Derrida, Karl Popper, and Bertrand Russell are all good examples of Ne doms who were too conceptual for their own good, as in putting too much emphasis on the thoughts themselves as opposed to actually doing things in the outer world.

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2022-03-25 07:02:08pm (post #8881)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

and mbti isn't built around how you see things lmfao

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2019-06-09 11:50:14pm (post #6354)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

new experiences, exploring all possibilities and adventurism vs the concrete tried-and-true @ally

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2019-06-09 11:49:45pm (post #6353)

typometrics.tumblr INFJ 4w5 (459) sp/sx EII

If we're judging something as an expression, it'd be more substantial to be based on behavior. Thought process is naturally an internal process so everything valued is going to be personal and it's going to be based on your internal framework. That said, for thought process I see people-orientation as highly subjective and more based on relative experiences and personal processes, whereas system-orientation is much more objective or at least works towards something which is objective and in line with how the world is, much more impersonal. If this is about society then I would agree with everything you just said other than the ENFP bit. (semantics i suppose) Edit: Although, I actually could see Te being more extroverted than Fe in society with certain situations, it really depends on the situation.

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2019-06-09 11:10:35pm (post #6352)

ally entp 3w4 ile

why N over S? mbti-wise you've convinced me of a stronger P vote but i'm not sure where N comes into play

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2019-06-09 11:00:25pm (post #6351)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

You're not talking functions but MBTI dichotomies in which extroversion is about social preference and "people" more than how much you interact with "the world", thinking as more extroverted than feeling then is plain wrong as feeling is entirely people-oriented while thinking is about systems of logic and fairness.. Even going with "the world around you" vs people you'd probably use an overall activity level as reference so you've got seeking novelty and jumping into activities for the sake of "external stimulation", people-orientation opposed to system-orientation, and a preference for the present moment, future possibilities and the making-and-breaking of plans rather than security and a desire to stick with your decisions.. you'd end up with ENFP with both definitions

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2019-06-09 10:43:12pm (post #6350)

typometrics.tumblr INFJ 4w5 (459) sp/sx EII

I'll just say, Te is the most extraverted judging function and Se is the most extraverted perceiving function. Hard to judge much further than that.

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2019-06-09 10:40:43pm (post #6349)

typometrics.tumblr INFJ 4w5 (459) sp/sx EII

You're either taking information in or deciding what to do with that information. Dom-extraverted judging types are much more actively expressive of their will. Te-doms specifically are more managerial and driven to work their will into the world. They don't tend to procrastinate, they're highly decisive, and they basically think out loud. ESFP's get bogged way down by introverted feeling despite often wanting to live life to the fullest. There's a lot of them that get incredibly depressed.

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2019-06-09 10:20:59pm (post #6348)

ally entp 3w4 ile

also yeah even going by mbti functions saying J must be more extraverted is a little silly. Pe is extraverted perceiving for a reason, and it's not like having dom P function means you have to let your aux Ji load in before you can do anything

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2019-06-09 10:11:18pm (post #6347)

ally entp 3w4 ile

going by assertive types was my initial thought also, but idk if assertiveness is necessarily a super strong indicator of extraversion (as a trait) so much as it is just an extraverted approach

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2019-06-09 10:05:55pm (post #6346)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

taking things in and keeping your options open is more extroverted than planning, categorizing and working by internal systems

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2019-06-09 09:57:18pm (post #6345)

typometrics.tumblr INFJ 4w5 (459) sp/sx EII

For MBTI, I doubt someone with dom-perceiving would be the most extraverted despite ESFP stereotypes. Perceiving takes things in; judging is decisive and more indicative of a desire to take action.

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2019-06-09 09:38:46pm (post #6344)

typometrics.tumblr INFJ 4w5 (459) sp/sx EII

7's are the most enthusiastic, impulsive, and hyperactive. 3's have the most ambition, hostility, and passion. 8's are the most confident, determinate and domineering. 7 > 3 > 8

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2019-06-09 09:12:37pm (post #6343)

typometrics.tumblr INFJ 4w5 (459) sp/sx EII

2's are ambiverts, not extraverts. 3, 7, and 8 would make the most sense.

Type 1: Compliant and Competency
Type 2: Compliant and Positive Outlook
Type 3: Assertive and Competency
Type 4: Withdrawn and Reactive
Type 5: Withdrawn and Competency
Type 6: Compliant and Reactive
Type 7: Assertive and Positive Outlook
Type 8: Assertive and Reactive
Type 9: Withdrawn and Positive Outlook

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2019-06-09 09:05:06pm (post #6342)

strawberry crisis enfp 7

I once made a big data set using statistics taken from the CPP (a.k.a. from the representative sample in the MBTI Manual):

These translate to comparative likelihoods e.g. the likelihood of being an extravert as a judger is 0.946 times that of being an extravert as a perceiver. If we're using raw data that exists to make a judgement on this particular entry, voting anything that's ordered E > N > F > P should be fair. I'll vote 1.0, 0.5, 0.25, and 0.25 respectively, but my "true vote" would be something like 1.0, 0.15, 0.05, 0.05.

The catch here is that these are all put together in a conglomerated mess, so true preferences might not really come out i.e. ENFP is an averaging out of everything for Feeling but it could be that ISJs had the highest ratio of feelers to thinkers. Luckily, I made data for that, too:

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2019-02-03 02:13:46pm (post #5168)

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Ambiversion MBTI dichotomies
Introversion MBTI dichotomies
Feeling MBTI dichotomies
Intuition MBTI dichotomies
Thinling MBTI dichotomies
Judging MBTI dichotomies
Perceiving MBTI dichotomies
ESFJ MBTI Type
ENTPs Most common enneagram type
sx/so Instinctual variants
ESTP MBTI Type
Gender dysphoria Match to type