yikes!

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@LVNA , okay, Im fine with not doing the things you dont want me to do

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is this some kind of new drama or directed at me bc there was never a screenshot involved

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Ye. The subject of the second person changed at some point in the sentence though. 

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was the first sentence a response to my request

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Sure, if you make fewer assumptions in conversation about how I transfer my experience to my beliefs. I didn't care about the screenshot anyhow, none of that was information that felt intimately relevant to me and it's quite useless to continue bringing that up as a sort of character attack. Most of your assumptions about what is dolorous are quite incorrect, making your jabs against most people shallow and more self-reflective than anything. 

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love u cena <3

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Fags

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Veganism isn't really and idodlgy

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yo dude I think he's talking shit on you dude... id expose him if i were u

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 Hey Lünä please unblock mee on discord :(  uwu

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"Its a matter of ethical standards which is especially strong in veganism, you have to change your entire mindset and get out of the comfort zone you're used to because you happen to believe that your actions and strongly ethical ideology can change something." 

I think this is one route to veganism and I understand why it would therefore be Delta NF, but I also know a handful of vegans who are not vegans principally due to strong ethical standards or self-reflection...in many cases they lack self-reflection and an understanding of how their actions can affect the world. Possible paths I've seen are: desiring adoration from family members, wanting to spite others who view veganism as useless, people who principally identify as such to form a group or community that they see as "holier than non-vegans," or simply for the purpose of cooking together. In the penultimate, I would say a handful I've known really don't have a worldwide reflection. They ignore the fact that their veganism really won't change the worldwide culture of meat consumption and high protein diets. A handful, though, understand this and are still vegans. These would correlate well to Delta NF, because of a desire to "lead by example"...to work within a grass roots framework to change the world. Political and organizing vegans again are a different case entirely. 

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I'll give it IEE-Fi

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So I think Si leading is nonsense

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The first step towards veganism is also self-reflection and self-critical thinking, criticizing the majority of mankind for their actions instead of conforming to them and living your life comfortably and the way you're used to it. It's not submission to your own desire for peace. Its a matter of ethical standards which is especially strong in veganism, you have to change your entire mindset and get out of the comfort zone you're used to because you happen to believe that your actions and strongly ethical ideology can change something.

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Most people dont care about veganism because the issues the majority of vegans worry about don't seem to affect them personally, I think the universal ethical consideration of the earth and the animals' well being correlates with intuition.

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This kinda seems like the epitome of a strong subjective impression/relation to animals/the earth that then expresses itself through a social, ethical philosophy, which many times suggests others should also accept said paradigm (Fe.) I think EII, with its lack of focus on the real/concrete, is most interested in inter-personal relations and ethics that derive from a subjective impression of another person's "soul," or internal world, and that this would not usually be measured in actions (Se). I would say ESI>EII for that reason too...I think people have forgotten Se PoLR in EII doesn't connote primarily "weakness/being docile," those should probably be related more strongly to Si and type 9. Like LII, the "Se PoLR" of EII manifests "itself" in strong opinions that seemingly have no basis in the concrete world.

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I love how quickly someone voted cp6w7


For real though, although there are undoubtedly some toxic people who have the philosophy, the philosophy itself is very 9w1. Veganism is simply the belief that we as moral agents should try to do the least amount of harm possible, both to our fellow humans and to animals. It's really a shame that people judge the philosophy so harshly based on a few negative impressions/stereotypes when it's really one of the most peaceful, compassionate, and rational philosophies to have.

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