Deism ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

Deism ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

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public myers-briggs votes

(19/11/27 13:10) fleetingpetals: INFJ

(19/05/19 02:26) INTJ-2698: xNTx

(19/04/22 14:07) Teru Mikami: INxJ

(21/08/11 15:32) Tman: INTP

(20/07/26 00:21) LadyX: INTP

(19/04/22 23:50) Taco110: INTP

(19/04/23 05:01) Diobono: INTx

public function votes

(19/05/27 01:35) Taco110: INTP

(19/10/03 11:50) Tman: INTP

public enneagram votes

(19/05/19 02:26) INTJ-2698: 5wb

(21/08/11 15:32) Tman: 5wb

(20/07/26 00:21) LadyX: 5w4

public instinctual variant votes

(20/07/26 00:21) LadyX: sp/so

(19/04/22 23:50) Taco110: sp/so

(19/09/06 12:23) Tman: sp/so

public tritype® votes

(20/07/26 00:21) LadyX: 541

(19/06/03 15:07) Tman: 514

public sociotype votes

(19/11/27 13:10) fleetingpetals: LII

(19/05/19 02:26) INTJ-2698: LII

(19/04/22 23:50) Taco110: LII

(19/04/04 23:16) tman: LII

public psychosophy votes

(20/04/08 14:51) fleetingpetals1: LVEF

(20/01/04 12:23) Tman: LVEF

public hexaco votes

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

"Deism is the belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically a creator who does not intervene in the universe"

"Theism is the belief in the existence of a god or gods, specifically of a creator who intervenes with the universe"

uh huh

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2019-04-23 04:51:00pm (post #5830)

fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST

you made a confusion between deism and theism. deism is the believe in god or many, theism is any possible"higher force" you mentionned. but this higher force is not nessearly a god but in that case we talk about theism not deism. we talk about deism in this topic (all monotheism and polytheism are deism). some philosopher included god in their philosophy like aristotle or stoicians but it's certainly not the most Ns (one of the most deist of this philosopher Marc Aurèle is ISFJ, and Aristotle is borderline in the N/S field), a non deist philosopher like heraclite is far more N with his theory of eternal return and the emergence of contrary, he succeed to find meaning without the easy concept of god.

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2019-04-23 01:43:20pm (post #5829)

fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST

higher force =/= god. it's not what you said

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2019-04-23 01:30:38pm (post #5828)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

deism is the belief in a god who doesn't intervene in the universe yes, why are you repeating my own argument against me?

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2019-04-23 03:46:59am (post #5827)

fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST

"All the writers you mentioned have religious themes throughout their works". i never meant they did not have religious theme. it was a mean to show you that meaning did not need a fantasy world to be accessible. meaning of religion is making like shiny and exposed what is obvious, it was an example that religion's world comparison with a realistic/ materialistic world is a shitty N/S distinction. if you are not able to understand that, maybe you are the retarded one.

"deism isn't monotheism, deists believe some "higher power" once created the universe and never intervened after unlike christianity, judaism, islam.. it has nothing to do with a "search for meaning" and there's no central figures, divine judgement or interventions, nor with the modern religions you're moving so bravely against" deism is the believe in a god (or many).

theism =/= Deism.

"N isn't intelligent or perceptive by default, S isn't stupid by default, and your opinions on religion are the same as those of a teenage boy that has just discovered Christopher Hitchens." i never said N was intelligent by default or sensor stupid by default. i have been opposed to this intuitive bias and quoted hobbes and Burke to go against it. you can ask to kawaii. you are using a sophism right here, you want to disqualify my opinion based on other people who share it instead of argumenting against it.

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2019-04-23 02:24:06am (post #5826)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI

I mean thats not to say it can't involve the search for meaning. Take Spinoza for example (mabye he's a Panthiest?)

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2019-04-22 09:52:52pm (post #5825)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

deism isn't monotheism, deists believe some "higher power" once created the universe and never intervened after unlike christianity, judaism, islam.. it has nothing to do with a "search for meaning" and there's no central figures, divine judgement or interventions, nor with the modern religions you're moving so bravely against

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2019-04-22 07:14:48pm (post #5823)

Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE

All the writers you mentioned have religious themes throughout their works, you edgy french retard. Especially Dostoevsky, imagine bringing up the guy who wrote The Brothers Karamazov to back up that argument. N isn't intelligent or perceptive by default, S isn't stupid by default, and your opinions on religion are the same as those of a teenage boy that has just discovered Christopher Hitchens.

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2019-04-22 05:45:38pm (post #5822)

fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST

"Religion is the belief in a higher power that is beyond the purely sensual, so it is actually more N in nature." N are able to see meaning and higher power beyond sense in the real world. most of them don't need religion to see sense. most of greatest N author created book in "realistic" universe (dostoviesky, kafka, Victor Hugo, Balzac etc...) because being N is about interpretation far more than believe in something that don't exist. higher meaning beyond sense are easy to found. S are the one most likely to need an imaginary world to see those higher meaning (created by Ns most of time i agree with it). religion is the meaning for those who can't find it themselves.

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2019-04-22 04:34:17pm (post #5821)

Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE

he was being ironic

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2019-04-22 03:10:17pm (post #5820)

tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI

Teru, don't you think thats a little simplistic and traiblistic?

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2019-04-22 02:22:30pm (post #5819)

Teru Mikami
Are you intuitive or do you follow the state?

nope the amount of symbolism and hidden meaning in religious works is completely obsolete because of SJ retard who believe in fairy tale. INTJ atheists are smart they believe in real concepts like eternal return predeterminism which are proven scientific consensus. Religion is for SJ commonplace conformist sheep sorry to burst your bubble.

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2019-04-22 02:06:33pm (post #5818)

Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE

Deism is not theism. Deism is a particular form of thought that resulted from the Enlightenment, which posits that God does not interact with mankind and is simply a distant engineer of the universe. I find your insistence that religion is mostly for S types unusual considering that the majority of the great religious leaders and theologians have been N types (Jesus, Siddartha Gautama, Augustine, Ghazali, Luther, etc.). Religion is the belief in a higher power that is beyond the purely sensual, so it is actually more N in nature.

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2019-04-22 12:40:52pm (post #5816)

fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST

just nope. INTJ got the most of famous anti-religious atheist. Deism especially monotheisms is an SJ thing. N have nothing to do with believing in god. religion is the imaginary world easily accessible for sensors. N tend to have their own and go against religions (or at least the major religion).

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2019-04-22 05:03:12am (post #5815)

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