Jungian Ti type ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

Jungian Ti type ~ MBTI, Enneagram, and Socionics Personality Type

Jungian Ti type

Psychological Types

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INTP 1

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sp/sx 4

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public myers-briggs votes

(20/12/19 06:42) Freaky_sage: INTJ

(19/08/22 23:41) Tman: ITP

(19/02/05 22:14) Taco110: INTJ

(18/06/15 04:11) EON: INTJ

(18/06/11 05:32) lvna: INTJ

(18/06/11 04:18) edza: INTJ

(18/06/11 02:25) Diobono: INTJ

public function votes

(22/04/08 03:46) Woll Smoth: INFJ

(21/08/20 12:52) Lawless: INTP

(19/02/05 22:17) Taco110: INFJ

(18/06/11 05:32) lvna: INFJ

(18/06/11 04:18) edza: INFJ

(19/05/21 09:36) DIobono: INFJ

public enneagram votes

(21/08/20 12:52) Lawless: 5w6

(20/12/19 06:42) Freaky_sage: 5w6

(19/10/25 11:52) Taco110: 5w6

(19/10/25 12:41) Thyssen: 5w6

(19/02/06 14:47) tman: 5w6

(18/06/11 04:25) edza: 5w4

(18/06/11 02:23) Diobono: 5w4

public instinctual variant votes

(21/08/20 12:52) Lawless: sp/so

(20/12/19 06:42) Freaky_sage: sp/sx

(19/10/25 11:52) Taco110: sp/sx

(19/08/22 23:22) Tman: sp/sx

(18/06/11 02:23) Diobono: sp/sx

public tritype® votes

(19/08/22 23:22) Tman: 593

public sociotype votes

(22/03/28 03:26) Woll Smoth: LII

(21/08/20 12:52) Lawless: LII

(20/12/19 06:42) Freaky_sage: LII

(19/10/25 11:52) Taco110: LII

(18/08/23 11:03) switchblades: LII

(18/06/13 01:18) Zeego: LII

(18/06/11 05:32) lvna: LII

(18/06/11 04:25) edza: LII

(18/06/11 03:11) Diobono: ILI

public psychosophy votes

public hexaco votes

Diobono int 5w4 ili

Lii fits more with 6 wing *

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2018-06-14 04:48:09am (post #1217)

Diobono int 5w4 ili

The jung description makes the ti type sound too mystical and images of visionary not to be a ni dom in socionics imo. also he describes him as being inconsistent in his work or something like that. I think that's more of a ili thing to be honest since they only have demonstrative ti. I'm being syncretistic but ili fits more with a 6 wing rather than ili with a 4 wing maybe due to suggestive fi.

Man i'm switching over to socionics in this period its more interesting than mbti and function typing is more justifiable lol.

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2018-06-14 04:47:33am (post #1216)

fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST

i agree with your Schopenhauer Socionics typing

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2018-06-12 04:46:12am (post #1181)

lvna

Here's a list of IDR's INFJ Pure Ti Types:

Plato (LII and 1w9)
Jung (LII and 5w6)
Wittgenstein (LII and 5w4)
Chomsky (LII and 1w9)
Dante (LII and 1w9)
Spinoza (SLI and 5w6)

There are a lot of different archetypes here. Sometimes you have a mixed F-N person: Joanna Newsom (Jungian Fe and INFJ by letters)

Sufjan Stevens is Ni-Fi or Fi-Ni, probably the latter.

De Beauvoir seems legitimately EII, INFJ, 1w9 etc.

Then you have a few Ni types on there:

Schopenahuer (INTx 5w4 ILI, Ni-Ti) and Lars Von Trier (INTx 4w5 and IxI - pure Ni)

It's quite the mix.

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2018-06-11 05:40:05pm (post #1176)

edza ENTJ 8w7 SLE

Socionics I lean LII for, although it's a close call. Socionics does seem to take that next step in "J-ness" for its LII, which leads to something that is more like a hybrid between 5w6 and 1w9 without as much of a prevailing subjective factor as Jung's more 5w4-ish Ti. I feel like IDR INTP is very similar to Socionics LII, although yes people like Hegel are considered LII in Socionics yet INTJ in IDRlabs. I also love that phrase "ivory tower thinker".

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2018-06-11 04:24:55pm (post #1175)

edza ENTJ 8w7 SLE

I do agree with most of what Diabono said. It's my thought that Ti type aligns more with MBTI J, mainly because the Ti type, while inherently subjective, will use that subjective vision as a guiding force to synthesize "reasoned judgment" which could be somewhat of a personal code which is used to structure one's life. I don't think his Ti type is nearly as obviously "J" as the Te counterpart, but it still has a lot of the same elements involved. It is not interested in free exploration as much as following a singular visionary pathway.

For IDRlabs I feel like I need to bring up not only INTP and INTJ but also INFJ of all things. They seem to have categorized a prioritized subjective factor/ primordial vision as "Ni" a lot of times, while Jung would consider that more of an "introvert" thing, and in the case of the Ti type, subjective thought constructions are the result. So what would be considered in Jung as basically:
Subjective factor -> T = Ti type

would in IDRlabs be converted to:
Ni -> Ti = INFJ

Which is why a lot of the more subjective philosophers who would be clear Ti types in Jung end up getting typed as INFJ if their subjective factor is overwhelming.

It's actually the Ti types that balance their Ti out with little Te and grounding their subjectivity a bit that tend to land the INTP typing from IDRlabs.

So while I may be reaching a little bit here, I think there's a case to be made for INFJ, at least in the sense of the purest Ti types getting typed as INFJ in IDRlabs, although they do also list people as INFJ who are not that. So the INFJ category over there ends up being an inconsistent hodgepodge of different archetypes, one of which resembles Jung's pure Ti type.
Their INTJ seems about equal parts Ti and Te, with a few exceptions, which is why I would rank it below both INFJ and INTP.

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2018-06-11 04:18:01pm (post #1174)

Diobono int 5w4 ili

Also in IDR the intps are the real ivory tower thinkers, the extremely abstract and highly metaphysical sort of thinkers which are basically the jungian Ti type. But Idr also puts Hegel as Intj, and he is probably the most ivory tower type thinker in all of fucking history lol. They also put Heraclitus, known as "the obscure" because he is one of the most cryptic philosophers in general . So i don't think the sort of person Jung describes is necessarily an intp in IDR.

To summarise i think intp and intj are generally on the same level in terms of mental wankery so both could fit into the jungian Ti type.

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2018-06-11 03:25:22pm (post #1171)

Diobono int 5w4 ili

I'm making these entries because Psychological Types is a work of Practical Psychology as Jung says in the Foreword and so his jungian functions descriptions are derived from his interactions with his patients and not from pure theory.

As he says it's "compounded by numberless impressions and experiences in the practice of Psychiatry". So it's interesting to me to understand what the pure function types of jung would translate into by using Mbti and the new functions descriptions.

Jungian Ti type is obviously a mish mash of various intx 5w4 maybe 5w6. But i'd go with 5w4 and also Ili because he does not have the consistency of a 5w6 and his ideas are too personalized and not systematic to be lii. He also fits very well with fi as a suggestive function and he sounds sort of sexual instinct in how he has "primitive affects" and has a weak spot for intimacy, obviously sp first though

In Idr vote he would probably be intp considering functionally how he puts the theory and "subjective factor" above factual data. But tbh i disagree with the idr intj and don't see why a Ni dominant would not be a theory first, facts later even going by their functions descriptions.

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2018-06-11 03:10:04pm (post #1170)

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