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public myers-briggs votes | (22/08/27 13:45) GIJOEBusta Cap: INTJ |
(21/03/25 08:36) YouAre(Not)INXJ: ENFJ |
(21/02/10 14:27) Lol: INTP |
(20/06/30 16:24) lotheraliel: ENTJ |
(20/07/24 22:44) KashifIrfanBhatti: INTP |
(19/12/29 13:36) Tiger: INTJ |
(19/05/09 16:12) INTJ-2698: INTJ |
(19/02/11 12:48) tch: ENTP |
(19/02/10 19:32) TheMemphis: ENTP |
(21/03/15 19:44) Tman: INTJ |
(18/12/12 15:07) CatttyKittty: INTJ |
(18/07/23 09:26) Teenage fantasy: ENTP |
(18/07/18 09:45) wecanbeliketheyare: ENTP |
(18/05/17 01:12) the heart marksman: ENTP |
(19/02/02 07:43) Khel: ENTP |
(18/05/17 12:45) edza: INTP |
(18/06/14 01:15) strawberry crisis: INTP |
public function votes | (24/04/29 08:46) rock and roll: INTJ |
(22/08/27 13:45) GIJOEBusta Cap: INTJ |
(21/03/25 08:36) YouAre(Not)INXJ: ENFJ |
(21/03/15 19:44) Tman: INTJ |
(20/06/30 16:24) lotheraliel: ENTJ |
(20/04/14 09:50) KashifIrfanBhatti: INTJ |
(20/02/11 13:50) Lol: INTJ |
(19/12/29 13:36) Tiger: INTJ |
(19/05/09 16:12) INTJ-2698: INTJ |
(19/02/28 17:34) ally: INTJ |
(19/02/11 12:48) tch: INTJ |
(18/07/23 09:26) Teenage fantasy: INTJ |
(18/07/18 09:45) wecanbeliketheyare: ENTP |
(18/05/17 05:31) fg: INTJ |
(18/05/29 10:23) strawberry crisis: ENTP |
public enneagram votes | (24/04/29 08:46) rock and roll: 8w7 |
(22/08/27 13:45) GIJOEBusta Cap: 8w7 |
(21/03/25 08:36) YouAre(Not)INXJ: 8w7 |
(20/06/30 16:24) lotheraliel: 8w9 |
(20/07/25 07:40) kashifirfanbhatti: 7wb |
(19/12/29 13:36) Tiger: 8w7 |
(19/05/09 16:12) INTJ-2698: 8w7 |
(19/01/10 00:36) tman: 3w4 |
(18/12/12 15:09) CatttyKittty: 8w7 |
(18/07/23 09:27) Teenage fantasy: 8w7 |
(18/11/12 21:15) wecanbeliketheyare: 3w2 |
(18/05/19 12:08) edza: 7w8 |
(18/05/17 05:31) fg: 8w7 |
(18/05/17 12:49) Khel: 7w8 |
(18/05/17 12:45) strawberry crisis: 7w8 |
public instinctual variant votes | (22/08/27 13:45) GIJOEBusta Cap: sx/so |
(21/03/15 19:45) Tman: so/sx |
(19/12/29 13:36) Tiger: sx/so |
(18/07/18 09:45) wecanbeliketheyare: so/sx |
(18/05/17 05:31) fg: sx/so |
(18/05/17 12:49) Khel: sx/so |
(18/05/17 12:45) strawberry crisis: sx/so |
public tritype® votes | (20/04/14 09:50) KashifIrfanBhatti: 853 |
(19/12/29 13:36) Tiger: 378 |
(19/12/26 03:46) Phantom: 862 |
(19/07/23 02:38) periwinkle: 358 |
(19/05/28 21:10) INTJ-2698: 853 |
(19/01/10 00:37) tman: 358 |
(18/11/25 12:48) Ryugan: 458 |
public sociotype votes | (22/08/27 13:45) GIJOEBusta Cap: EIE |
(21/03/25 08:36) YouAre(Not)INXJ: EIE |
(20/08/02 18:36) Sociotyper: EIE |
(20/04/14 09:50) KashifIrfanBhatti: EIE |
(19/12/29 13:36) Tiger: EIE |
(19/12/24 09:32) Phantom: EIE |
(19/10/14 17:38) Lol: EIE |
(19/05/26 13:10) kawaii: EIE |
(21/03/15 17:04) INTJ-2698: EIE |
(18/11/23 17:35) Resonare: LIE |
(18/11/13 05:12) echidna1000: EIE |
(18/11/12 21:10) switchblades: EIE |
(18/11/12 21:01) wecanbeliketheyare: EIE |
(18/06/11 02:56) Nyx: LIE |
(19/05/26 12:50) fg: EIE |
(18/05/17 02:10) strawberry crisis: LIE |
public psychosophy votes | (21/03/15 19:44) Tman: VLFE |
(20/06/30 16:24) lotheraliel: VLFE |
(19/11/25 13:51) Phantom: VEFL |
public hexaco votes |
YouAre(Not)INXJ ENFJ 4w3 EIE![]() ![]() 2021-03-25 08:44:43am (post #8712) |
Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE![]() ![]() 2020-07-09 08:44:26pm (post #8351) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-12-12 05:28:38pm (post #4210) |
CatttyKittty ENTJ 1w2 ![]() ![]() 2018-12-12 03:10:38pm (post #4209) |
Resonare INTJ 1w9 sp/sx ILI-Te![]() Fi-suggestive. I've re-watched up until half of R2 and I've already seen a few instances of this from what is certainly his dual as Shirley is ESI (identical to Asuna from SAO for anyone interested). ![]() 2018-11-23 06:39:16pm (post #4145) |
edza ENTJ 8w7 SLE![]() ![]() 2018-11-18 03:10:35am (post #4124) |
Resonare INTJ 1w9 sp/sx ILI-Te![]() ![]() 2018-11-17 04:39:55pm (post #4123) |
edza ENTJ 8w7 SLE![]() ![]() 2018-05-26 07:34:08am (post #767) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-05-24 12:16:23am (post #712) |
edza ENTJ 8w7 SLE![]() Yes you could rephrase that question but then it'd end up being a question that isn't related to MBTI, and even if he sort of chooses the I answer for a sort of weird reason that may betray the test's design it'd still be a strike in I's favor. Question 4 is in a literal sense asking about ability but it's sort of written in a way that it's hard to imagine was supposed to be totally literal? But I can concede that question which would make it 3-2 in favor of introversion of your 5. Even if you do choose some of the E answers in these things that we're debating though, the MBTI has too many of these things which create an I cushion that can't really be overcome, especially in the word choice section. Clearly, Lelouch is quiet, reserved, and private. You can sorta see just how disinterested he is in "social" stuff like he just wants to get away which is also where I see him having to choose the "drained" choice when it comes to being around a lot of people. I agree with what you say in your longest paragraph and maybe he'd get on the E side in Big 5 but I have the MBTI in front of me and it's just hard to see how you can get an E answer there. There's even a question about parties and I remember there being some filler episode in some sort of party scene where I believe Lelouch was disinterested. 5 choices here would have to be changed from I to E in order for him to come out as E and I feel I was actually generous to the E side, and I'd argue against any of the I answers being changed to E. There's also this weird thing about the MBTI test supposedly being more about internal preferences, but the E/I scale is the one part of it where it's asking mostly on a literal level how you actually are or what you actually do, and it's here that I just don't see rationalizing the E outside of like in the 5 out of 21 questions where I put the E choice. ![]() 2018-05-19 12:01:50am (post #656) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() I think you’re right about his sort of apathy toward group dynamics, but I don’t actually know if he would choose “people you know really well” for what that really means either. You could rephrase the question to mean challenging person vs not challenging person and his focus would just be more geared toward something else that doesn’t really have to do with extraversion/introversion. I don’t know you can apply that logic to question 4 since it deals almost with something related to ability—at least in the first scenario. I feel like Lelouch’s social abilities are at least typical of someone who would be able to answer the former even though he isn’t necessarily into the idea of talking for the sake of talking. I would need an example for the “often draining” choice since I can’t really recall a situation with him where he felt drained because of being around too many people. I don’t really like “external environment over internal world” being the crux of my stance but I find it really hard to imagine the presence of an actual inner world Lelouch returns to after involving himself in all that he does. It doesn’t seem like Lelouch “cultivates” anything from that side of him in a way that I think introverts are supposed to? Like Form M’s questions all do eventually relate back to a sense of openness and involvedness vs abstention and carefulness that I think Lelouch has room to relate to for the former but doesn’t necessarily have much in common with the latter for. Everything Lelouch does to move away from the extraverted options seems to only favor an alternative kind of “extraversion” centered around excitement. Maybe I’m tugging really hard on the strings here but I almost see it like extraversion in MBTI ultimately deals with moving toward externalizing oneself while introversion does the opposite and moves toward internalization (this may be Jung-related compensation but the descriptions here allude to that http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/extraversion-or-introversion.htm?bhcp=1), and Lelouch doesn’t quite externalize himself through the means those Form M questions ask for but he doesn’t really “internalize” himself at all either. I don’t think Lelouch is “rather quiet and reserved” because of everything he gets into but I do see him as aloof since he remains distant from people he doesn’t care much for, which in Lelouch’s context moves back to another thing he can get involved with. He probably wouldn’t be gregarious or friendly but he would be excitement-seeking, assertive and active. But none of that should matter unless Lelouch relates more to introversion or extraversion in the end. I’m not sure what he would choose but the placidness of introversion doesn’t seem too much like something he would identify with. I know the archetype we’re dealing with it the Too Smart For You Genius but he seems to be missing the moving away from people thing that comes with that. He’s misanthropic but I couldn’t see him spending time alone unless he really perceived it as futile to interact with people. I feel like his time at school without all the extra stuff he got into is somewhat indicative of him caring enough about having a social life to not move away from new people or detach himself from others. There is a definite case for his introversion but something about actually typing him I seems a little bit off for me. ![]() 2018-05-18 02:21:00pm (post #649) |
edza ENTJ 8w7 SLE![]() So yeah, 4 out of 5 of your E questions seem like ones he'd answer I to. Maybe I'll just try to take the test from his perspective, but I can see some kind of abstract argument like "he derives his energy from the external environment" leading to an E answer, so maybe in function based systems the E type makes more sense. ![]() 2018-05-18 02:54:53am (post #637) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() I can personally see him answering E on the following, but I'm sure you could also imagine him answering I: Are you usually a "good mixer," or rather quiet and reserved? When you are with a group of people, would you usually rather join in the talk of the group, or talk individually with people you know well? Do you tend to spend a lot of time by yourself, or with others? Can you talk easily to almost anyone for as long as you have to, or find a lot to say only to certain people or under certain conditions? Do you find being around a lot of peoplegives you more energy, or is often "draining"? These are questions where he almost definitely would choose the I options: Would you say it generally takes others a lot of time to get to know you, or a little time to get to know you? Would most people say you are a private person, or a very open person? Do you usually mingle well with others, or tend to keep more to yourself? (he honestly could be E here, too, but I imagine this to be something he could be conflicted with) I feel like most of his introverted traits would stem from his "secrecy" but everything else about him seems so external. His wikia page describes him as a "sociable, likeable, and often easygoing student," and while they call it a mask, there is something sort of inherently extraverted about how he seems to be defined by all the images he projects onto the world. You never know the real Lelouch, but the Lelouch behind all of those facades is one that seems so unfocused on any sense of inwardness—the only allusion to the opposite is how he keeps his personas separate from one another by hiding stuff but I'm not really sure if that should be enough to call him introverted. He would super not be J though. The very basis of that ambiguity surrounding his I/E preference is inherently extremely perceiving and trying to twist that systematically-bound letter around him would never work. ![]() 2018-05-17 03:02:23pm (post #600) |
edza ENTJ 8w7 SLE![]() Not sure about the Enneagram or Socionics thing though. ![]() 2018-05-17 02:33:25pm (post #599) |
Khel NEET owo space TIT![]() Thought so but not sure enough - your vote will be my placeholder vote ![]() 2018-05-17 02:24:11pm (post #598) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-05-17 02:10:29pm (post #597) |
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