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public myers-briggs votes | (22/09/10 10:29) rock and roll: ISTP |
(22/09/10 10:28) GIJOEBusta Cap: ISTP |
(21/09/19 19:53) Reinek: ISTP |
(20/11/26 22:09) JohnN64: ISTP |
(20/11/26 02:31) Retroman: ISTP |
(20/11/25 05:36) Anderson20: ISTP |
(20/02/01 21:25) Jacobus: ISTP |
(19/09/08 19:02) Lol: ISTP |
(19/06/18 08:18) tanchique: ISTP |
(20/07/17 16:16) Tman: ISTP |
(18/12/07 11:21) SirCanSir: ISTP |
(18/12/06 23:57) Taco110: ISTP |
(18/11/13 20:09) tch: ISTP |
(18/11/11 10:45) twinpinks: ISTP |
(18/08/23 13:51) harbinger: ISTP |
(18/08/18 02:41) kawaii: ISTP |
(18/08/17 21:56) Teru Mikami: ISTP |
(18/08/17 17:57) fiddlediddle: INFJ |
(18/08/16 21:59) Orpheus12: ISFP |
(18/07/08 08:06) Nyx: ISTP |
(18/07/08 08:44) switchblades: ISTP |
(18/05/03 08:53) the heart marksman: ISTP |
public function votes | (22/09/10 10:29) rock and roll: ISTP |
(22/09/10 10:28) GIJOEBusta Cap: ISTP |
(21/05/13 22:16) Lol: ISFP |
(20/12/01 15:48) Anderson20: ISTP |
(21/05/31 10:56) Tman: ISFP |
(18/12/07 00:01) Taco110: ISFP |
(18/12/06 18:24) tch: ISFP |
(18/08/18 02:41) kawaii: ISFP |
(18/08/17 21:56) Teru Mikami: ISFP |
(18/08/17 18:30) fiddlediddle: INFJ |
(18/07/08 08:06) Nyx: ISFP |
(18/07/08 08:44) switchblades: ISFP |
(18/07/06 12:55) fg: ISFP |
(18/06/17 07:38) Khel: ISTP |
public enneagram votes | (22/09/10 10:29) rock and roll: 9w8 |
(22/09/10 10:28) GIJOEBusta Cap: 9w8 |
(20/11/26 22:09) JohnN64: 9w8 |
(20/11/26 02:31) Retroman: 9w8 |
(20/11/25 05:34) Anderson20: 9w8 |
(20/02/01 21:25) Jacobus: 8w9 |
(20/01/15 15:34) Lol: 8w9 |
(19/02/25 18:18) tman: 8w9 |
(18/12/07 11:22) SirCanSir: 8w9 |
(18/12/06 23:58) Taco110: 8w9 |
(18/08/23 19:24) fiddlediddle: 9w8 |
(18/08/23 13:50) harbinger: 9w8 |
(18/08/08 17:33) wecanbeliketheyare: 8w9 |
(18/07/08 08:45) switchblades: 8w9 |
(18/06/17 07:38) Khel: 8w9 |
(18/05/03 08:53) the heart marksman: 8w9 |
public instinctual variant votes | (22/09/10 10:29) rock and roll: sp/sx |
(22/09/10 10:28) GIJOEBusta Cap: sp/sx |
(20/11/26 22:09) JohnN64: sx/sp |
(20/11/25 05:34) Anderson20: sp/sx |
(20/02/04 21:33) Lol: sp/sx |
(19/01/17 03:05) tman: sp/sx |
(18/06/17 07:38) Khel: sp/sx |
(18/05/03 08:54) the heart marksman: sp/sx |
public tritype® votes | (20/02/04 21:33) Lol: 864 |
(19/02/25 18:18) tman: 864 |
(18/12/07 00:04) Taco110: 864 |
(18/09/13 08:50) switchblades: 864 |
public sociotype votes | (22/09/10 10:29) rock and roll: SLE |
(22/09/10 10:28) GIJOEBusta Cap: SLE |
(21/05/31 10:56) Tman: SLI |
(21/05/13 22:16) Lol: SLE |
(20/08/02 18:37) Sociotyper: ESI |
(20/07/17 12:39) Jacobus: SLE |
(18/08/18 19:28) switchblades: LSI |
(18/07/09 06:02) fg: SLE |
public psychosophy votes | (20/04/05 00:56) Jacobus: FVEL |
(20/07/17 16:17) Tman: FVEL |
public hexaco votes |
Brainer ISTP 9w8 sp/sx ![]() ![]() 2019-05-26 07:15:52am (post #6128) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() ![]() 2018-08-19 02:45:28pm (post #2940) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2018-08-19 01:59:41pm (post #2939) |
switchblades INFP delete![]() ![]() 2018-08-19 12:50:32pm (post #2938) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 06:43:04pm (post #2930) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 04:52:14pm (post #2922) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() Except if you try to really type them by understanding their motivations and means of action they're INJs. Inferior Se types with more physical fighting styles than another inferior Se type like Dooku. I don't know why you're just hyper focusing on one part of my argument to prove yours (cherry picking is usually a bad argument technique and very intellectually dishonest). I'm trying to explain that physicality or lack of physicality has nothing to do with risk - if you're trying to define risk as level of physicality in combat that is. There's benefits and risks to both the more physical two handed and one handed styles and it has to do with what could counter one style of fighting and what could not. Suceptability to types of techniques is what is considered risky - not how much a style requires one to move. One is not necessarilly riskier than the other. It all depends on what fighting style gets adopted by the individual and how their experience with it. Combat is not always an Se thing. I'm trying to get you away from thinking that Guts' physicality in combat means he doesn't have inferior Se. It doesn't matter. He trained his whole life with two handed swords that inherently requires more physical moves and trained at it long enough to become a master at it. More physicality is not necesssarily a risky thing. It's fuzzy ground and a poor means of typing without radically simplying one's understanding of combat techniques. you are so illusionate by your fantasm about INJ I'm trying to prove why Guts in INFJ. You're making the ridiculous claim that inferior Se types will always choose physically conservative combat styles "out of less risk" therefore he isn't an INFJ - despite the fact his motivations and tendencies as a character do demonstrate Ni-Fe-Ti-Se. Then I'm saying that physicality associated with a certain fighting style is irrelevant to whether Se exists at all. I don't know you're making a case if argument ad reductio so I'm trying to do what I can. ![]() 2018-08-18 04:43:09pm (post #2921) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() You don't have to say anything. There is nothing for you say. Say nothing if you will. If you will, say nothing. Say nothing, you will. What are you even talking about? What are you talking about? ![]() 2018-08-18 03:57:46pm (post #2916) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 03:53:11pm (post #2915) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 03:51:32pm (post #2914) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 03:42:55pm (post #2913) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() lol no Yoda's INFJ. I think we've gone over this. Batman's an INTJ (they'll always say Batman can defeat anyone given enough prep time). Palpatine's also an INTJ gives how he likes to play the shadowy puppet master archetype and had Order 66 planned in mind long before he became a senate. ENTJs can do it as well but I think they're going to be much more willing to take the centre stage - granted I haven't actually looked this deep into Palpatine. physical inf Se fighter take very little risk in their fighting skill (like doku). It's difficult to define "risk" in fighting styles. Combat in general is a pretty on the moment back and forth, risk and reward scenario. There's no way to avoid a good deal of risk without really planning ahead. Dooku is essentially a rapier fencer and you could argue rapier fencing is riskier than the tradtional two handed long sword light saber techniques of say Obi Wan, Palpatine, Anakin or anyone else as it's easier to maintain control and absorb attacks. Or you could say it's safer because lightsabers are all cutting blow torches that mitigates the need for excessive physical force for cuts so a rapier style of fighting is the most efficient form of fighting. It's like I've said fighting styles are a really fuzzy ground for typing unless you really try to analyze what they're trying to do and how that could lead back to a certain type - even that is pretty diffcult to do. INTJ Dooku takes a conservative (this doesn't always mean lack of risk) and efficient style of a rapier fencer because of his inferior Se if you will. Then how do inferior Se Yoda, Obi Wan, and Palpatine still stick to their very physical fighting styles? It's fuzzy ground. ![]() 2018-08-18 03:36:50pm (post #2912) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() Ignored a good gist of how I tried to explain the origins of Izuku's heroic ethics and how it resembles the function of Fi. but ok "INFJ should be focused on certain thoughts in order to pass as one and that guts has to be "channeling into his STP shadow" what how shadows in functions work Guts and his shadow archetype. Given how the Beast of Darkness (Gut's shadow archetype manifested) plays on his sense of nihilism and taste for blood it's probably some sort of STP. I hope you don't take this too literally so it goes over your head (but it's going to isn't it?). exactly and how someone's preferences suddenly change when they get edgy enough to make them an entirely different type) what I don't even know what you're talking about anymore Teru. I'm sure all of that was just a huge mistake and you've always assumed that functions =/= skill or ability Now you're really not making any sense. How about not ever talking about anything outside of letter MBTI or ennegram. You'l at least sound sensible then. hence your condescension towards any type that's not INFJ Stop projecting your asshurt onto me. Sheesh. you're completely in your right to say that nobody knows what they're talking about except you (hence why after I explained you're wrong you went ad hominem and ignored what I said) That's right Teru. You don't really know anything. You don't even understand the basics of cognitive functions which is why you're constantly tripping over basic descriptions of types and keep on asking me banal questions over and over again (just for the sake of trying to piss me off). You'll even make a big deal out of the "invalidity of functions" (of which I don't necessarily disagree with) despite the fact sakinorva not only supports cognitive MBTI but also socionics which is an even more advanced system of Jungian functions. I don't know what you're doing here or why you're here in the first place. But I don't care. If you're not going to debate productively I'm just going to keep shitting all over everything you do. Grow up. ![]() 2018-08-18 02:51:15pm (post #2910) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 01:38:14pm (post #2909) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 01:27:46pm (post #2908) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 12:41:16pm (post #2907) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() Here's an argument. Batman is not an INTJ because "he's too good at martial arts." Master Yoda is an ISTP because he "has a very physical style of light saber combat." Palpatine is an ESTP because "he's a douche, and is also very skilled at light saber combat." Combat prowess does no necessarily indicate Se nor does it indicate where Se could be in a stack. You could try to attribute curtains of fighting styles with certain types but even then it might be a bit blurry. Generally put, the position of Se in a stack suggests the preference of one types willingness to engage in the external sensory world. An INFJ, compared to an ISTP or ESTP, is far less likely to be willing to engage is the external sensory world. In terms of combat prowess, say in an equal circumstance where there is no external pressure to develop "Se skills" an ISTP or ESTP are more likely to pick up and develop their combat prowess before that of an INFJ. It's preference and likely outcomes of said preferences and understanding how certain circumstantial demands that might affect said outcomes. Guts having inferior Se wouldn't necessarily mean he would be shitty at swordplay - especially not if given proper training which is what he had to go through all of his early life. That's why Guts is such a skilled warrior. Other than that he never truly embraces Se say like ESTP Corkus. Guts, in normal states, is always inwardly turned and contemplates the meaning of his existence and his relation to others - like an Ni-Fe user should ![]() 2018-08-18 12:40:42pm (post #2906) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 12:40:03pm (post #2905) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 12:32:49pm (post #2904) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 12:16:59pm (post #2903) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 11:55:27am (post #2902) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 11:18:58am (post #2901) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 11:16:59am (post #2900) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 10:57:25am (post #2899) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() "GUTS IS ISTP" lol grow up (read the manga pleb) ![]() 2018-08-18 10:44:50am (post #2898) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 10:13:02am (post #2896) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() Pretty much anyone who tried to argue at length that he's an ISTP/ISFP made errors in understanding functions or made glaring misinterpretations of Berserk lore and Guts' character. ![]() 2018-08-18 09:57:24am (post #2895) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-08-18 09:37:27am (post #2894) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() ![]() 2018-08-17 08:58:51pm (post #2884) |
fiddlediddle INFJ 1w9 IEI - Fe![]() ![]() 2018-08-17 06:31:09pm (post #2875) |
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