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public myers-briggs votes | (24/02/12 01:38) fleetingpetals1: ENTP |
(24/01/26 00:36) LVNA: ENFP |
(22/03/27 22:00) GIJOEBusta Cap: ENTP |
(20/04/08 22:47) zayeh: ENFP |
(20/02/13 15:08) Thyssen: ENFP |
(19/09/24 08:07) johncena: ENFP |
(19/07/25 12:35) Eon: ENFP |
(20/05/01 16:50) Tman: ENFP |
(18/12/08 11:43) tch: ENFP |
(18/06/20 02:00) fg: ENFP |
(18/06/18 08:02) Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys: ENFP |
(18/06/14 05:53) Teru Mikami: ENFP |
(18/06/14 05:43) switchblades: ENFP |
(18/05/26 05:01) szero: ENFP |
(18/05/15 05:36) *~snow~*: ENFP |
(18/05/05 12:32) the heart marksman: ENFP |
(18/05/05 12:13) CIA: ENFP |
(18/05/04 05:12) kawaii: ENFP |
(18/05/04 04:56) Taco110: ENFP |
public function votes | (24/02/12 01:38) fleetingpetals1: ENTP |
(22/03/27 22:00) GIJOEBusta Cap: ENTP |
(20/10/16 23:23) Flower-like: ENFP |
(20/06/20 00:06) tch: ENFP |
(20/04/29 18:10) Tman: ENFP |
(19/07/25 12:35) Eon: ENTP |
(18/07/11 03:47) switchblades: ENTP |
(18/12/03 13:26) Taco110: ENTP |
(18/08/09 18:55) LVNA: ENTP |
(18/06/17 02:36) Teru Mikami: ENTP |
(18/08/29 04:02) fg: ENFP |
(18/06/17 05:29) Stephen Hearts: ENTP |
(18/05/05 10:43) Tiger: ENFP |
public enneagram votes | (24/02/12 01:38) fleetingpetals1: 7w6 |
(22/03/27 22:00) GIJOEBusta Cap: 7w6 |
(20/05/07 10:19) Diobono: 7w8 |
(19/10/23 01:06) strawberry crisis: 7w8 |
(19/09/24 07:27) johncena: cp6w7 |
(19/02/26 18:38) bloomer: 6w7 |
(18/06/14 05:53) Teru Mikami: 7w6 |
(18/05/26 05:01) szero: 7w6 |
(19/10/29 17:08) LVNA: 7w8 |
(18/05/13 03:04) fg: 7w6 |
(18/06/02 10:42) Nyx: 7w6 |
(18/05/05 10:43) Tiger: 7w6 |
(18/05/29 12:09) Doha: 7w8 |
(18/05/05 12:32) the heart marksman: 7w8 |
(18/05/05 12:13) CIA: 7w6 |
(18/05/04 08:08) SigmaEnigma: 7w6 |
(18/12/03 13:25) Taco110: 7w6 |
public instinctual variant votes | (24/02/12 01:38) fleetingpetals1: so/sx |
(22/03/27 22:00) GIJOEBusta Cap: so/sx |
(19/03/31 11:06) kawaii: so/sx |
(24/01/26 00:36) LVNA: so/sx |
(18/06/01 04:22) Nyx: so/sx |
(18/05/26 05:01) szero: so/sx |
(18/05/04 04:56) Taco110: so/sx |
public tritype® votes | (24/02/12 01:38) fleetingpetals1: 721 |
(18/12/13 14:19) Taco110: 729 |
(18/09/14 05:42) fg: 279 |
(18/09/14 18:58) switchblades: 729 |
(18/09/13 06:57) Teru Mikami: 278 |
(18/09/13 22:19) strawberry crisis: 729 |
public sociotype votes | (24/02/12 01:38) fleetingpetals1: ILE |
(22/03/27 22:00) GIJOEBusta Cap: IEE |
(20/10/24 09:59) Flower-like: IEE |
(19/12/27 19:19) Tiger: IEE |
(19/12/09 18:09) Tman: IEE |
(18/12/13 14:19) Taco110: IEE |
(18/12/03 13:29) switchblades: IEE |
(18/10/10 01:56) forestgump: ILI |
(19/12/31 08:02) fg: IEE |
(18/05/14 01:27) LVNA: IEE |
public psychosophy votes | (24/02/12 01:38) fleetingpetals1: VLFE |
(24/01/26 00:36) LVNA: EVLF |
(19/12/01 20:19) Tman: EVLF |
(19/10/19 14:00) fg: EVLF |
(19/10/15 01:23) strawberry crisis: EVLF |
public hexaco votes | (19/10/16 02:08) strawberry crisis: HEXACO |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:44:53pm (post #8315) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:44:37pm (post #8314) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:43:29pm (post #8313) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:43:12pm (post #8312) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:43:01pm (post #8311) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:42:17pm (post #8310) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:41:10pm (post #8309) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:40:10pm (post #8308) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:39:34pm (post #8307) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:39:03pm (post #8306) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:38:52pm (post #8305) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:38:39pm (post #8304) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:38:30pm (post #8303) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:38:20pm (post #8302) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:38:00pm (post #8301) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:37:31pm (post #8300) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:36:55pm (post #8299) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-17 01:16:33pm (post #8298) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2020-06-15 08:30:30pm (post #8297) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2020-04-14 01:08:52am (post #7985) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2020-04-13 07:13:13pm (post #7980) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2020-04-13 07:12:14pm (post #7979) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2020-04-10 01:30:22am (post #7955) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2020-04-10 01:29:10am (post #7954) |
zayeh epic style ![]() 2020-04-09 12:00:42am (post #7910) |
zayeh epic style ![]() 2020-04-08 10:47:08pm (post #7897) |
skyvermin 153 1w9 5w6 3w2 so/sx ![]() ![]() 2019-12-28 06:31:51pm (post #7591) |
Tiger ENTJ 3w4 LIE![]() ![]() 2019-12-28 06:22:14pm (post #7590) |
skyvermin 153 1w9 5w6 3w2 so/sx ![]() ![]() 2019-12-28 05:32:20pm (post #7589) |
Tiger ENTJ 3w4 LIE![]() 1) I like to keep people on their toes lol 2) I said I'd make a decision by the end of this year, I have 3 days left - I'm experimenting like fuck until that time. ![]() 2019-12-28 11:38:34am (post #7588) |
Fuzzy ![]() ![]() 2019-12-27 10:26:19pm (post #7587) |
Fuzzy ![]() ![]() 2019-12-27 10:24:22pm (post #7586) |
Tiger ENTJ 3w4 LIE![]() ![]() 2019-12-27 07:07:35pm (post #7583) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() Let me try editing this again! Yes, I think online it's generally hardest to make out preferences A and D in someone's type ABCD. I've usually understood this more as A and C coming across as ambiguous for myself here so I'm imagining a "yes I see F and P but not so much N and even less E" thought process behind it and it's mildly amusing ![]() 2019-12-02 12:57:50am (post #7481) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2019-12-01 11:11:13pm (post #7479) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2019-06-06 05:29:00pm (post #6309) |
switchblades INFP delete![]() ![]() 2019-06-05 11:43:08pm (post #6306) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2019-04-01 07:43:12pm (post #5770) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() But it’s 6 that I’m still so intrigued by. I related a lot to Rowe’s Social 6 description by started having second thoughts about it after reading other Social 6 descriptions and comparing them to Social 7 descriptions (Beatrice Chestnut’s So 7 is maybe the most relatable subtype description I’ve found), I could only connect So 6 traits I exhibited back to the So 7 outlook. I can’t relate to that overt sense of phobia and seeking security at all, and patterns throughout my life just show how extremely not Sp, J, or conscientious I am in a way that should resonate with most other Sixes. I knew I couldn’t possibly be an 8 wing with how much I devalue structure and certainty, but just how 6 was my 6? A lingering feeling that I couldn’t seem to place on the Enneagram was a feeling of “not wanting to be weak” and “overcoming my limits by pretending they weren’t there,” and articulating it made it sound like it should have been an Enneagram type of its own that didn’t yet exist—I knew it wasn’t something I could connect to 8 because I interpret weakness and vulnerability in a very different way that connects more to self-control and self-acceptance rather than guardedness and self-denial. And then... Intimate Sixes • Lead disciplined lives that bring them strength – physical, emotional or spiritual. Being strong calms their fears. • Creative; need to transform a harsh world into a beautiful one; often confused with Self preservation Fours. • This subtype brings an artist’s eye and an aesthetic perspective, an acute awareness of beauty, a love of nature and landscape. • Sixes with this subtype tend to act strong or alluring when insecure. • More likely to be counterphobic; they take risks, talk tough, worry about looking weak, having their fears show. • When beauty is the focus they try to seem attractive to contain fear, get approval and distract others. • Some need to create and make things, to transform what they see and feel into something tangible. • Can be image conscious; their preoccupation with beauty can mutate into personal vanity; a stronger connection to Three. • May hide and contain their fears behind an attractive mask; a sense of protective distance and once-removed control. • A defiant/aggressive life stance is possible, an imitation of strength. • Anti-authoritarian and knee-jerk rebellious. • Intimate Sixes may project their power onto a sexual partner or sexuality itself; some report feeling addicted to sex. • Project power onto authorities and then fight with them. • Can be reckless, impulsive and prone to bad judgment. • Whatever the question the answer is no; can be mistaken for Eights. • This subtype can conflict with the Self preservation impulse in Sixes. Being creatively daring, open and unguarded is at odds with surviving and staying safe. • If self preservation Sixes are addicted to security, Intimate Sixes are addicted to insecurity. I didn’t really see much in Sx 6 descriptions before, but if counterphobia is a reaction to inner fear that manifests in the same way escapism does with inner anxiety, then I resonate a lot with the counterphobic 6. It’s interesting because looking at it this way allows me to draw lines of cp6 to things I’d previously attributed to just a very not-self-preservation-focused 7: ”Look at that little cactus!” “What if I took a bite out of it?” “What??” I guess I wasn’t paying a lot of attention because tiny cactus spines found their way into my fingers and it took foreeeever to get them out. But that “I bet you can’t / bet you I will” attitude is something I’d want to attribute to cp 6, particularly cp 7w6. And I’ve noticed that it’s extremely dependent on the audience for me; I wouldn’t do these things alone because I have nothing to “show” anyone. Might that be related to the image-conscious side of Sx 6? Pushing boundaries and pretending they don’t exist comes from the same place: consciousness of the “rules” and being aware of the limits and yet pretending that these limits don’t exist—that sounds like a red flag for counterphobic 6. Testing relationships by willfully “breaking rules” and pushing them to their limit—sounds an awful lot like counterphobic 6. Having fun by working against what keeps me secure—also counterphobic 6. This wasn’t an easy connection for me to make since everything is left so ambiguous by Enneagram authors trying to explain what the Enneagram even is, but whatever this brand of it that allows cp 7w6s to exist is would be just my thing. But blogging aside, I think I want to give my tritype 6 vote a strong 0.8 now. It feels extremely secondary and I can only easily recognize it in counterphobic contexts, but it’s gotta be strong, right? ![]() 2018-09-13 04:56:59am (post #3251) |
LVNA ![]() ![]() 2018-08-09 11:45:13pm (post #2752) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-08-09 10:59:52pm (post #2751) |
switchblades INFP delete![]() ![]() 2018-08-08 10:30:47pm (post #2685) |
Zeego INTP 9w1 sp/sx ILI Strange alien child ![]() ![]() 2018-08-08 10:14:43pm (post #2684) |
switchblades INFP delete![]() ![]() 2018-08-08 09:57:06pm (post #2683) |
Zeego INTP 9w1 sp/sx ILI Strange alien child ![]() ![]() 2018-08-08 08:42:59pm (post #2681) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-07-10 04:06:10pm (post #2037) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-07-10 03:56:14pm (post #2032) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() LIE-Ni subtype: Appearance: The intuitive subtype is pleasant and considerate in dialogue. He can be affectionate and cheerful, possesses a developed sense of humor, often becomes the soul of a company. Inspired, energetic, and optimistic. Mobile, restless, scattered, always in a hurry, aiming to accomplish much in time. Very enterprising, boldly takes risks. It's hard for him to concentrate on one thing for a long period of time. He has many ideas. Always has several points where he can apply his efforts. Diplomatic and gallant with everyone, especially with women, but can show familiarity at closer acquaintance. Due to his inclination to unceremoniousness, his sense of tact often fails him, and he commits ethical mistakes, which he tries to correct and mend with the help of jokes and his services. Behaves himself simply, uninhibitedly, freely and easily. In conversation sometimes like to touch his conversation partner, to hug, to kiss, to make jokes. His gestures and gait lack ostentatious solidity and seem very natural. Character: This is a person of action with a developed creative beginning. Has an active practical mind, very curious, and boldly experiments. Often constructs far-reaching but concrete plans. Impulsive, cheerful, enterprising, easily takes initiative in new projects and beginnings. Quickly turns to work, inspiring others to get involved with his own enthusiasm. Bravely tackles implementing new ideas to life, as he sees their prospects well into the future. Brave, resourceful, far-sighted and shrewd. Instantly orients in extreme situations and develops an effective plan of action. If he is not involved in some project or activity, he starts to feel bored and his vitality falls, but usually he is able to quickly find application of his abilities in any activity. Somewhat scattered, inclined to get distracted by secondary and unimportant things, due to which may put off the main work until later, but after a while returns to it. Impatient by nature, may be careless and negligent with details. Dislikes competing, manifesting selfish interests, demanding his right to something. May cede his positions to more obstinate and insistent partners. For the sake of justice or to defend an idea in which he believes, may sacrifice his own interests. Fluctuates in choosing which decision to go with, due to which it is easy to talk him out of what he has conceived. Due to internal doubts and contradictions he can be unpredictable in his behavior. With difficulty endures the crash of his hopes, but, with the inherent to his optimism, is not averse to start everything anew, not looking back. Gravitates towards new impressions and changes, often changes his hobbies and interests, tries and tests himself in different spheres of activity and occupations. A romantic at heart, enjoys travel, sharp and thrilling impressions, sometimes tests and risks with his fate. Faithful in relations, but not averse to flirting. His personal life is often rather complicated and changeable. Emotional, fidgety, restless. Tries to do everything in time and feels very worried when he sees that he cannot accomplish everything by the deadlines. He is often in a hurry himself, and hurries and urges others. Negatively refers to those who are lazy, who seek convenience and enjoyment. In conversations, he is lively and welcoming. Seems sincere, original, straightforward, and predisposing towards trust. Attentive towards other people, delves into their problems, gives advice, offers his services, tries to encourage them, make them laugh with jokes. If in the interests of the work or business he finds it necessary to put pressure on other people, tries to do it in inoffensive form, although he may be too direct and pushy. Sometimes his sense of tact fails, and he can inadvertently offend his conversation partner, but then he tries to fix the situation immediately or very soon. He is docile in nature: it's difficult to pick a quarrel with him. Interested in various unsolved and unexplored phenomena. Tries to comprehend the essence of various events and manifestations. Reflects and thinks over scientific, moral, and philosophical questions. In his soul he is somewhat suspicious and superstitious. At home undemanding, can do with very little. Loves children and animals. Pays little attention to his appearance. Wanting to be loved not for his appearance, but for his inner qualities. In need of a person who can keep him from committing rash actions. (maybe) ![]() 2018-07-10 03:37:59pm (post #2031) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() Character: This is a person of action with a developed creative beginning. Has an active practical mind, very curious, and boldly experiments. Often constructs far-reaching but concrete plans. Impulsive, cheerful, enterprising, easily takes initiative in new projects and beginnings. Quickly turns to work, inspiring others to get involved with his own enthusiasm. Bravely tackles implementing new ideas to life, as he sees their prospects well into the future. Brave, resourceful, far-sighted and shrewd. Instantly orients in extreme situations and develops an effective plan of action. If he is not involved in some project or activity, he starts to feel bored and his vitality falls, but usually he is able to quickly find application of his abilities in any activity. Somewhat scattered, inclined to get distracted by secondary and unimportant things, due to which may put off the main work until later, but after a while returns to it. Impatient by nature, may be careless and negligent with details. Dislikes competing, manifesting selfish interests, demanding his right to something. May cede his positions to more obstinate and insistent partners. For the sake of justice or to defend an idea in which he believes, may sacrifice his own interests. Fluctuates in choosing which decision to go with, due to which it is easy to talk him out of what he has conceived. Due to internal doubts and contradictions he can be unpredictable in his behavior. With difficulty endures the crash of his hopes, but, with the inherent to his optimism, is not averse to start everything anew, not looking back. Gravitates towards new impressions and changes, often changes his hobbies and interests, tries and tests himself in different spheres of activity and occupations. A romantic at heart, enjoys travel, sharp and thrilling impressions, sometimes tests and risks with his fate. Faithful in relations, but not averse to flirting. His personal life is often rather complicated and changeable. Emotional, fidgety, restless. Tries to do everything in time and feels very worried when he sees that he cannot accomplish everything by the deadlines. He is often in a hurry himself, and hurries and urges others. Negatively refers to those who are lazy, who seek convenience and enjoyment. In conversations, he is lively and welcoming. Seems sincere, original, straightforward, and predisposing towards trust. Attentive towards other people, delves into their problems, gives advice, offers his services, tries to encourage them, make them laugh with jokes. If in the interests of the work or business he finds it necessary to put pressure on other people, tries to do it in inoffensive form, although he may be too direct and pushy. Sometimes his sense of tact fails, and he can inadvertently offend his conversation partner, but then he tries to fix the situation immediately or very soon. He is docile in nature: it's difficult to pick a quarrel with him. Interested in various unsolved and unexplored phenomena. Tries to comprehend the essence of various events and manifestations. Reflects and thinks over scientific, moral, and philosophical questions. In his soul he is somewhat suspicious and superstitious. At home undemanding, can do with very little. Loves children and animals. Pays little attention to his appearance. Wanting to be loved not for his appearance, but for his inner qualities. In need of a person who can keep him from committing rash actions." ![]() 2018-07-10 04:47:59am (post #2003) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-06-17 07:43:34pm (post #1268) |
LVNA ![]() ![]() 2018-06-17 06:50:02pm (post #1266) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-06-17 04:30:35pm (post #1265) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-06-17 02:35:45pm (post #1264) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-06-17 02:11:33pm (post #1263) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-06-17 01:11:18pm (post #1260) |
fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST![]() ![]() 2018-06-17 12:28:59pm (post #1259) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-06-17 12:00:49pm (post #1258) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-06-03 02:44:57pm (post #954) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2018-06-03 02:25:07pm (post #953) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() Nyx, that's actually a super cool observation hahaha. I think we'd normally attribute that to an 8 wing but it's so hard to accurately attribute the wings (6/8) to attitudes especially when most of their traits wouldn't show very explicitly over a medium like this. ![]() 2018-06-03 02:09:19pm (post #949) |
Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 ![]() ![]() 2018-06-03 12:39:01pm (post #932) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-06-03 09:14:31am (post #927) |
Lily Ives Gossamer ![]() ![]() 2018-06-03 09:07:42am (post #926) |
Nyx INTP 5w4 593 Sx/Sp ![]() ![]() 2018-06-02 12:44:16pm (post #915) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() But just from a more literal perspective, the page szero linked below (http://www.russellrowe.com/enneagram-types/enneagram-type-6-description.pdf) also has a section where it describes the “natural gifts and talents” of the 6, where I do relate just about completely to each one, whereas the same section for the 8 is permeated by a sense of independence that weaves back into its core which I really don’t relate to. It’s not the same kind of independence that comes with 7 but one that’s bent around a very negative everyone-for-themselves worldview where they can only live solitarily in a way that would imply detachedness if assertion weren’t such a part of 8. Another way to look at it is how I relate a lot to the Social-first description of the 6 here: demonstrating care and devotion to social groups, being self-sacrificing, staying connected with others, etc. Normally I would isolate those traits and attribute them to perhaps 2 since I don’t really relate to the authority/anxiety stuff but thinking about it, I never consciously think about why exactly I fulfill social obligations where I’m asked to do something other than perhaps a silent “I want to be there for them” in whatever context that idea manifests in: performing with someone, listening to someone, working for someone, or anything else. I have an awful natural inclination to be extremely self-centered and do things solely for my own enjoyment, and I feel like I have to care for others in order to compensate for that nasty side to me that I never want to show. I think it’s why at home I’m much more unfiltered in my behavior, too—it’s like I flip a switch and can be horrendous because I’m able to forget to care so much more easily. Writing all this out, it makes sense why I would be so out of touch with that anxiety thing. I never really think about the “what if I didn’t?” aspect or act on it... the Enneagram tells me I would probably be much more consciously anxious if I were in touch with that kind of thinking. But all that aside, I’m not sure where I would fit an 8 wing into that same way of looking at myself. I do consider myself self-confident and I’m hard to bring down, but these are traits I feel like I’m pulling out of context for the 8. It’s like how I can be very assertive and I do a lot of mean goofs, but it hardly makes me more 8 than 6. And even with that mean jokester thing in mind, there’s a “presentable” me I’m able to revert back to that eases others whenever I go too far with something by accident—maybe that can also be attached to the 6 wing? That kind of thinking is exactly what I mean with an everything-confirms-it attitude, where I’m able to connect everything back to the 6 wing all of a sudden, but is it just me locking myself into that kind of thinking? The RHETI gave me 8 as my third highest score after 7 and 2, and 6 was by far my lowest, but here I am thinking 7 pairs with 6 for me rather than 8. I think this is just the way the Enneagram works, like how I could look back at a version of myself that I could consider nearly the exact opposite of who I am now and still type it 7 because of its links to 1 and 5. ![]() 2018-06-02 01:35:09am (post #908) |
Nyx INTP 5w4 593 Sx/Sp ![]() I don't really know how to put this, but when I read your responses it seemed to come from a "defeating arguments against" and as you seem thoroughly convinced I would like to be as well. ![]() 2018-06-01 04:21:57pm (post #902) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-06-01 11:48:34am (post #899) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() I went ahead and banned you on “Doha,” “Claudespeed3,” “mike dike,” “Joc,” “Baros,” “Aluminium Frost,” “remember what your fart is for,” and whatever else I banned already that I’m too lazy to look back for. And since I never replied to your previous comment: the way I was raised should probably have indicated that I turn out to be a 6, even though I responded to it in a way that would move me toward 7 instead. Whether I’ll grow up to be a 7w8 is ambiguous but from the Enneagram’s perspective, I think I should be a 7w6 as-is with “invisible” 6 traits. I can be honest, direct, straightforward and all of that but unless I’m mistaken, it doesn’t make its way into whatever I can type as. ![]() 2018-06-01 11:35:04am (post #898) |
Teru Mikami Are you intuitive or do you follow the state? ![]() ![]() 2018-06-01 11:27:50am (post #897) |
Stephenhearts ![]() ![]() 2018-06-01 09:07:14am (post #896) |
Doha INTJ 6w5 ![]() Anyways I'm changing your vote from 3w2 to 7w8, you're now officially a part of the mean troll club Lol. ![]() 2018-05-29 12:08:46pm (post #827) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() I’ve been there and what proved arruinous for me was my poor sense of self-preservation, even though I was very okay with that myself—others were horrified learning about my extremely perceiverish attitude living alone and I don’t think anything really describes it too well other than “lack of sp.” This may mean that I’m implicitly dependent on support but I myself turn a blind eye to it. It turns out that I’m perfectly okay with that type of support disappearing, but I don’t really do “well” without it. Maybe a better connection to draw might be to not having people to talk to or spending time completely alone? The problem with how you related it back to self-support in the Eight wing example is that it turned into a dichotomy where I wouldn’t necessarily fit in either. I wonder though about the blind optimism thing... is that really a 7w6 thing? It seems like a Seven thing but Six is both realistic and logical so I wouldn’t imagine how naïveté translates to a Six wing as much as it might to “not an Eight wing,” which places a lot more emphasis on a negative view of the world where it’s more subconscious for the Six. The distractability thing is also just a Seven thing as far as I know rather than a 7w6 thing and it’s how Sevens tend to be unaware of how their anxiety shows (I’ve read it’s anxiety that comes from the inner world, too, hence why Sevens distract themselves through external means) but something interesting is that Sixes are described as “out of touch with their thinking” which might translate to a sense of unawareness of their anxiety if that idea builds context outside of having to seek assurance in their thoughts from other people. I don’t know if I would call 7w8 more “street-smart” as much as “self-reliant.” I think 7w6s are by nature much more street-smart considering that the Six wing would make them much more aware of other people and the environment built around them. I wonder how it would compare to Eight’s awareness of who has the resources, though. I recognize how I should be a 7w6 but my behavior isn’t straightforwardly 6 sp enough for me to be able to connect how Sixes are often described back to myself. ![]() 2018-05-27 01:11:00pm (post #789) |
Doha INTJ 6w5 ![]() ![]() 2018-05-27 07:45:25am (post #788) |
Doha INTJ 6w5 ![]() ![]() 2018-05-27 06:55:18am (post #786) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-05-27 01:04:45am (post #782) |
Zeego INTP 9w1 sp/sx ILI Strange alien child ![]() ![]() 2018-05-26 09:01:24pm (post #781) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-05-26 08:15:29pm (post #779) |
szero INTJ 1w9 Sp/Sx LII-Ti szero#0663 on Discord, https://blog.sakinorva.net/article.php?title=szero-self-assessment ![]() http://www.russellrowe.com/enneagram-types/enneagram-type-6-description.pdf ![]() 2018-05-26 05:01:23pm (post #776) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() I actually honestly think type 6 and the traits that stem out of it might be the closest thing to a “blind spot” I have in the Enneagram—those who know me personally constantly try to drill the idea of establishing a sense of security and support in myself and I’m absolutely unable to do that. My family members feel distant from me while I feel micromanaged, and while that idea is very 7 in itself (I realized that there was a way to fit the 5 angle into all that, but there it seems like ambivalence precedes individuality and that this is more seven-aligned after all), I can’t figure out a way to fit myself voluntarily moving toward security and support in it all. I can easily fit “fear of deprivation” into how I act with how I sort of dissociate myself from what I am provided with and move away from familial constraints in order to move toward what I really desire (and feel deprived from without), or in other words, I take my foundation for granted. I think that being wary of that foundation is exactly what should make one identify more with type 6 and it’s something that I can only very barely grasp, and only from an outside perspective. But the problem is that being not a 6 wing is supposed to make you an 8 wing, so i looked into all that too. Type 8 is also far removed from who I am save for the aggressiveness and the healthy traits that arise from its core (but the core is what matters, and I only somewhat relate to it). I’ve only very recently realized that by being security and support-blind, I would have to be less ambivalent to self-reliance... and I do think I have much more of that than I do a need to depend on others for support. I thought I was apathetic to being self-driven, but... not really. But it only truly matters if my sense of self-reliance and inner drive is related to that of type 8, and I think it actually does! Something I really relate to with type 7 is that I very much hate doing things that I don’t enjoy doing, but type 8 can fit in with the things that I do enjoy doing. Doha’s 3w2 comment down there is sort of indicative of this where I can get very very focused and driven about things I like so long as I perceive a worthwhile end result and push through all the fluff to accomplish a task with sheer force. It’s interesting that the black-and-whiteness of type 8 that I am extremely averse to identifying with actually does show itself here with how I can develop a very “Te” mindset where I focus on results and disregard the process in favor of just knowing for sure that something will come out at the very end. Reading over the parental orientation section for type 8, I realized I apply that “role in life” thing to type 7 and how I feel like those traits I like in myself should be used to provide others with direction (like maybe how I’m almost hopelessly optimistic about things). I’m not sure how well it connects back to 8 since that’s also a very 7 idea in itself but I’m satisfied with all that for a wing. I really don’t identify with anything else in type 8 though and think that it’s still very off and I also hate the nasty and distorted worldview 8s are supposed to have so I’m definitely not going to type myself as 8w7 or anything anytime soon but I think I have just enough 8 to finally decide on it as a wing. I never saw much 8 in myself and identified with the 7w6 archetype sans its dependencies and worry and all of that but realizing how 6-averse I am makes me think that this has to at the very least be more right. But phew now that I’ve finally documented all of that I can’t wait to see how I react to this months later when I type as 7w6 upon realizing I’m brimming with anxiety and define myself thru my relationships with authority figures! And oops is that another strawberry thesis statement ![]() 2018-05-17 12:54:55am (post #572) |
Tiger ENTJ 3w4 LIE![]() ![]() 2018-05-05 10:44:05am (post #153) |
Doha INTJ 6w5 ![]() ![]() 2018-05-05 08:34:57am (post #152) |
strawberry crisis enfp 7 ![]() ![]() 2018-05-04 11:45:37pm (post #140) |
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